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"A Billion Nazis at the Table" - The Fediverse model proves contextual moderation by real humans is both easy and affordable. The presence of Nazis on corporate social media implies at least a tacit a (www.staygrounded.online)
submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/technology
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"If you’ve ever hosted a potluck and none of the guests were spouting antisemitic and/or authoritarian talking points, congratulations! You’ve achieved what some of the most valuable companies in the world claim is impossible."

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I've seen the main two types of trolls: people who try to cause problems in a subtle way for the sake of entertainment (the good trolls), and the ones that attract downvotes by saying the dumbest shit you've ever read (the bad trolls). I actually enjoy the good ones, it seems like they don't tend to show up unless there's already a flame war going on, and they can be pretty funny. The bad trolls are just assholes in disguise. Sadly the bad trolls tend to get ignored.

[–] scottywh 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People don't agree on what's dumb shit to say is the problem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's more that they say it in what appears to be an intentionally inflammatory way. Like, sometimes there are really bad takes that seem trollish on their own, but when someone says it in an inflammatory way, it's hard not to see them as a troll.

[–] scottywh 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Honestly, I say shit that people disagree with and are pissed off about pretty often.

But personally, I only really run into what I'd actually consider trolls on occasion.

More often than I'd like, sure, but I guarantee you there have been people who think I'm a troll just because I have and voice a strong opinion that they disagree with in a way that they can't comprehend or deal with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is false consensus somehow related to subjective opinions?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Eh, sometimes. Sometimes there are really bad takes that feel trollish on their own, but most of the time it's a bad opinion stated in a seemingly intentionally inflammatory way.