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[–] Treczoks 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

With the usual caveat "The IDF says:". Same care is needed to anything "The Hamas says:". Both sides have their agenda, and it is not necessary involving facts and truths.

[–] avater 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

totally agree on that but even our german state news station is reporting that there were foreign journalists with the soldiers on the spot to witness the storage of weapons and other military equipment, so it seems this has at least other sources besides the IDF

and to give perspective on our state news, they usually label any news shared by only one source or side as not independently verified and are financed by law by the german citizens and not some big company with an agenda. So they are by all means not perfect but usually a pretty safe source.

[–] Treczoks 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

While adding ARD or ZDF journalists adds credibility way over Fox "News", the rooms shown could easily have been staged for the show.

[–] avater -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

While adding ARD or ZDF journalists adds credibility way over Fox “News”, the rooms shown could easily have been staged for the show.

Yes it could but this is also highly speculative and from footage we have seen it is not unusually to see hamas forces around those buildings.

[–] Treczoks 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What I'm saying is that whatever information comes from that part of the world is usually completely unverified and unverifyable. It's either "The IDF said" or "Hamas said". Neither is trustworthy, even if they "show evidence". Regardless if the IDF shows a room with some weapons and random items they could have picked up from the street, or someone else holding up a dead baby and telling it was shot by the Israelis.

Nobody down there is there to tell the truth. Everybody is there to convey a set message.

[–] avater 0 points 10 months ago

Agreed but if the news pops up from different sources, maybe there is more behind it.

[–] 5BC2E7 -2 points 10 months ago

They have footage