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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

To be fair, Matrix is not exactly trying to be a "discord alternative" so much as an "all messaging platforms alternative", but it's still embarrassing that this feature is not present yet. It's been heavily requested by the discord crowd for years, and should have been a higher priority.

As for friends switching, at least Matrix has bridges and puppeting/double-puppeting support. Unfortunately, I don't think discord voice channel bridging/puppeting will ever work, so it's really not that useful in this instance. I know ripcord has voice channel interop so it is technically possible, but it's probably too hacky/abusive to put in officially, and it would probably only work with puppeting.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Calling other people's work embarrassing is easy when you're not the one building or contributing to the codebase. Implementing voice chat is no easy task, and it's all done voluntarily in people's free time.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

it’s all done voluntarily in people’s free time.

Firstly, Matrix has plenty of paid developers that work on it - this is not even close to a passion project made by volunteers in their free time.

Secondly, I'm not saying the work is embarrassing (the work is nothing short of incredible), I'm saying the priority to leave this feature on the backburner for years is. They likely ended up with more important priorities and didn't have enough resources to dedicate, but on a practical level the lack of hotjoin voice channels sticks out like a sore thumb to new users.

I've been championing Matrix for about 4-5 years now, and it's been so long since this feature was requested/promised that it's at the point where I'm too "embarrassed" to try to convince people to switch anymore. People just expect this feature in a messaging platform nowadays, and if it's not there they're going to leave immediately. When this makes it into stable with a good UX, I'll be back on the new user pipeline.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Matrix Spaces are broken enough. Even Conduit doesn't support that feature. Don't expect Matrix to fully resemble Discord, not even Cinny. Matrix is meant for secure conversations.