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People already didn't care for Captain Marvel, so it'd have to be a really good movie to convince people to watch it. The fact that it's even worse and more generic than that is the nail in the coffin. I'm surprised it managed to get almost $50 million at all.
But go off then
Capt. Marvel got an artificial boost being sandwiched between Infinity War & Endgame, that was peak Marvel and CM got extremely fortunate placement, literally any Marvel movie would’ve done well with that timing. The Capt. Marvel movie itself though was probably one the weaker movies in the franchise. It didn’t contribute anything meaningful to the lore and, if anything, it made Fury worse off and ruined the Skrulls. Had they planned it out better, they could’ve made Secret Invasion the epic conclusion to an ongoing Skrull conspiracy storyline, instead they had to backtrack by making Skrulls into villains again and turning Fury into one of the most pathetic characters in Marvel.
Yeah, I remember only watching it because I thought it'd have some plot points important to know before watching endgame
Same. I didn’t really know much about Capt. Marvel going into it, but was willing to give it a chance and assumed there was some sort of deeper tie-in with the whole Infinity War saga, but essentially there just was a sort of ham-fisted cameo with the Tesseract/Space stone and that was about it. It explained how Fury knew her I guess, but didn’t really tie in with anything else.
Haha same. I thought she'd be way more involved in Endgame. I still enjoyed her movie though.
I'm talking about reviews, not revenue. Suicide squad earned $750 million worldwide. The sequel underperformed because nobody wanted to watch a sequel for it. Revenue doesn't matter, Captain Marvel is regarded as one of the worst marvel movies and it would need convincing to get people to watch more of it.
The second Suicide Squad released as one of the first big cinema releases in the pandemic, of course it underperformed.
It also underperformed digitally and sold almost a fifth as much DVD/BluRays.
79% Rotten Tomatoes
6.8 IMDb.
73% of google users liked this movie.
Seems more positive than negative to me, but go off then.
Every marvel score is suspiciously inflated and every marvel fan agrees captain marvel wasn't good. But sure, I will go off.
Translation: you want it to be bad and not do well, but everyone else does not share that opinion.
Translation: Marvel has inflated ratings because outlets love getting attention for liking the popular thing
Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness: 73% RT
Ant Man and the Wasp: 87% RT
Iron Man 3: 79% RT
Tell me these are great movies everybody loves. I can't believe I had to argue, with a straight face, that captain marvel is a bad movie
I’m a Marvel fan and I loved it, but glad you got it off so it wouldn’t keep building up and bother you any more than it already was!
Great, I'm glad you got to fanboy in the comments section while ignoring every point made. You were really holding it in. Also loved how you conveniently left out that Captain Marvel has the worst audience RT score of any marvel movie (45%, where Thor The Dark World has 75%)
…I..was directly responding to every point you made with basic facts on the reviews and the earnings…
Sorry, I’m confused. Are you upset with me that I liked the film, or only upset with me because I liked the film and you said nobody liked it so it makes you wrong or something? Like I’m genuinely confused why me enjoying it matters to you.
Does it? I just took the first google links my dude, I didn’t know which RT score they show on the google results page.
It makes sense though, that movie was review bombed hard by conservatives and misogynists. It comes up pretty much anytime a strong female character pokes at their fragile little masculinity.
There’s just so many issues with the character showing up on the big screen. You have an omnipotent super hero that can show up on screen and is already stronger than every super hero in the mcu. She was immediately able to go toe to toe with thanos and while I think they handled it well she was effectively the deus ex machina ish for the film.
Then add in how they basically just rushed a movie out to get her relevant and caught up within the context of the infinity war saga. It felt rushed, she had the whole, ‘people don’t like the movie because they’re sexist’ rant, and it just didn’t end up mattering in the larger scheme of things.
Doing this movie was just building on an already lukewarm reception for the character and it arrives just as audiences have completely stopped giving a shit about box office super hero movies.
The mcu algorithm is dead in the water. You’re only finding real success with it when things are either super well done like Loki or if it’s abnormal enough that it’s new and refreshing like the waititi Thor movie (although love and thunder went too over the top and blew it).
They need to shelve superhero movies for a bit, then come back and focus on quality over quantity. I’m ok with the whole atmosphere if it’s done like Loki, but it’s clear that just trying to ram through as many movies as possible isn’t going to work anymore.
I'd argue it wasn't that l&t went over the top, it's just the plot was essentially non-existent
I’ll be honest I was kinda drunk when I watched it but even intoxicated I felt like it was a bit much. I definitely liked the first movie he made way more.