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[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The problem is that this is a strategy, and it might work. The judge is showing signs of exasperation. The defense is laying the grounds for an appeal based on judicial bias. Viewed in that light, each time the judge interjects out of annoyance or exasperation is citable evidence. It's funny, but it is also rather dangerous.

[–] grue 106 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The judge needs to calmly and patiently explain to Trump that he will be jailed for contempt if he doesn't follow the rules and act in good faith, and then dispassionately follow through with that consequence.

Don't threaten him, don't cajole his lawyers to constrain him, don't complain about his behavior. Just give him a time-out, like the petulant toddler he is, until he gets it through his skull that his bullshit won't be tolerated.

Once he comes back, if he won't agree to behave or if he does promise to behave and then breaks that promise, simply immediately put him back in the cell for another round.

Trump needs to see the inside of a holding cell for a while in order to act right.

[–] Wrench 32 points 1 year ago (8 children)

As much as I'd love to see it, jailing him for contempt would play right into their plan. He wouldn't see 24hr of cell time before his fanatic base would be whipped into violence, painted as political persecution of the GOP (defacto) nominee

It's all paper thin excuses to anyone with critical thinking, but we know it'd be a successful ploy.

[–] TwoGems 27 points 1 year ago

They already do violence who cares. Every mass shooting is almost always a Trump supporter.

[–] iforgotmyinstance 26 points 1 year ago

What the fuck is the national guard for then? It's the correct and legal punishment, and it's a matter of national security. These concepts are not conflicting.

[–] shalafi 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm prepared to defend myself, my family and my home. Ever fought a bully? They fucking cave with the quickness.

One silly bitch got shot through the neck and they scrambled out of that part of the Capitol.

I'm not brave, but if they think I'm harmless, they are free to test that assumption.

[–] Fades 14 points 1 year ago

Get fucked Babbitt

[–] AngryCommieKender 17 points 1 year ago

Fuck em. They already sent their best on Jan 6. I'm not impressed. The National Guard can steamroll them and the cops if the cops turn traitor.

[–] grue 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  1. It doesn't even need to be 24 hours. I suspect giving him even a 1-hour time-out would be plenty.

  2. I couldn't care less what The Base thinks of it.

[–] badbytes 13 points 1 year ago

It's not terrible for the crazies to show us where they be.

[–] ghostdoggtv 7 points 1 year ago

Let them do their violence, it'll end like Ft. Sumpter the first time around.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't think it's a strategy, it's just a happy potential by-product, albeit an unlikely one.

Sure it's possible that a judge might make mistakes that may form the basis for a successful appeal. Is Engoron more likely to make mistakes because of Trump's antics? Not necessarily. Most people do their best work under pressure.

Trump's behavior is focused as always on his supporters. The more he appears to be persecuted the more his supporters will throw money at him - it's that simple. He's intentionally pushing the judge as far as he can without crossing the line into actual consequences.

Edit: as an aside the photos of these idiots always makes me think about how much time they've spent practicing their facial expressions in a mirror.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'll add to that that wasting a judge's time through non-compliance is a fast track to default judgment. Just ask Alex Jones how that goes.

The right to a speedy trial is a right for the prosecutors, too.

[–] TechyDad 5 points 1 year ago

Not just wasting the judge's time, but yelling at and insulting the judge on the stand. I'm no lawyer, but I doubt this is a legal strategy that any reputable legal professional would recommend.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Already got the equivalent of a default judgement - he's already ruled on the law.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Right, but not for the punitive damages part.