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Nineteen states have passed legislation to make daylight saving time permanent. But those laws won't take effect until Congress makes it legal. And the medical community sees one major problem.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd take "3 to 11" and just use GMT. Then none of these bickering parties have a leg to stand on anymore.

[–] Thwompthwomp 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It makes the same problem though. You create some abstraction layer of "at 3 I start work". You then travel somewhere else, and you have to shift your abstraction layer again to "at 8 I start work"


or you ask "but its 3 at office X, why aren't they at work?" and then still need to shift mental times to figure out when local day/night is.

The local noon system works to ease the local abstraction shift, but makes it harder to jump to absolute times.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No mate haha... everyone uses GMT. That's the goal. No more time zones. You don't have to plan when going to another location, it's the same time everywhere. If I gotta call someone on the other side of the world, it may be dark where they are and light where I am, but it's still 4 o'clock. That's the beauty of it.

No more time zone translation, do they use time changes, if they do, which one? That's all over. You could even get rid of AM and PM and use military time so there no more confusion at all.

Yes, it would require us to get used to saying I'm working at 7 pm when it would normally be 2 pm local but that's nothing compared to the dance we're doing right now and once you've adjusted, it's done for good. How much productivity is lost when people miss phone calls or meetings because of the disparity?

Hell, I've even missed BUSINESS FLIGHTS because of this stuff and I'm not alone.

[–] Thwompthwomp 4 points 1 year ago

I completely understand what you're saying. It works for synchronizing well as things run on an absolute time. However, you are still going to do a localization shift, and you end right back up with time zones.

In your example, you work at 1500. Cool. I need to coordinate with Bob from Bulgaria. Its also 1500 there. Is he working? Who knows. I need to get out ye old solar map and find out. Or, I'm flying to Tokyo. My body is going to follow its diurnal cycle and want to wake up when the sun rises. We are still going to have a local abstraction of what the day hours are that shift with respect to longitude. A universal time doesn't get rid of that. I agree that flight coordinating would be easier. But, if I know I want to arrive somewhere in the morning, right now I sort by AM arrival, and boom I'm done. In a UTC system, I now have to go look up the solar morning hours for my destination sort by time, find the window I want to arrive in, and then I can be good. I still might not have a good sense of what is super early versus what is closer to middle of the day.

[–] captainlezbian 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only issue I have with that is the date change at a reasonable hour. Especially since in California it would happen during standard business hours

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

at the dmv:

"your license is expired. you have to retake the exam"

it wasn't when i got in line

[–] captainlezbian 1 points 1 year ago

Wait does your state not have a grace period for that. Mine is quite long. You have 6 months of “It’s expired but we know you probably don’t check this often, so it’s fine if you fix it quickly”