this post was submitted on 02 Nov 2023
160 points (95.5% liked)

Privacy

31609 readers
138 users here now

A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.

Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.

Some Rules

Related communities

Chat rooms

much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Recently discovered this. Molly supports link with existing device just like on signal desktop. It even has benefit of getting entire chat history unlike signal desktop. Just restore the signal backup file during setup and then click link with existing device. Then scan with you primary phone. Beauty of open source. Molly: https://molly.im/

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm using molly for several months now it is really nice but recently I dive myself in XMPP and it is superior to molly/signal just because XMPP servers are auditable amd you can actually see if the server is using encryption or not while signal servers are closed source unfortunately, it's their only flaw

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The signal source code is open source, it is hard to prove that the servers are running the source code that's published, and we know they have admitted to having source code they don't publish for anti-spam purposes.

But you could take the signal server source code and stand up your own signal servers today.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

it is hard to prove that the servers are running the source code that's published

impossible*

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And how do I tell may client to use only a specific server?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If your going to run a independent signal server cluster, you will also need to modify the client applications to connect to your cluster.

You probably would find the molly developers happy to accept a push request to have some configurable backend selection.

Session demonstrates this is possible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If yo run your signal server does it come with the new quantum E2EE?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good question, check with the signal github

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know man, seems to me XMPP is more secure (unless you trust Signal) and simple to use because you have to jump less hoops

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

By all means, go with the platform you like better!

https://www.privacyguides.org/en/real-time-communication/

Are all perfectly acceptable options

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your client encrypts and decrypts everything, so it is actually not a privacy concern regarding message content when we don't know what the server does.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The server could decrypt or could be machines attached to the server that store data

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your private key stays at the client, the server doesn't get it. Verifiable by the source code of your client

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago