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"Why don't you listen to both sides of the argument and make your own opinions and arguments based on that?"
Bitch, why do you think I'm a fucking leftist???
The enlightened centrist here comes across as a Republican too embarrassed to admit it -- it seems to be a core thought in conservatism that anyone who isn't conservative just hasn't formed an independent opinion, and if they did that, they'd be conservative.
That's not what he's saying though. That's all you and your prejudice making it up on the spot because you dislike people who are not into polarised politics. Being quite new to lemmy i must say there seems to be a whole lot of leftist echo chambers. Also what is the issue with the person possibly being female? You probably shouldn't be using a derogatory term like that...
Bitch is no longer really a gendered put down any longer any more than asshole is. Languages change. Back to centrism. Fundamentally the language is deceptive. Left and right implies they are equally valid choices like tacos or burgers. The problem is that what is being described as "left" or "right" is in fact fact based positions vs fantasy. Lets do one. Climate change.
Far right: Climate change isn't real the earth is only 6000 years old made as is. Nothing needs to be done.
Middle right: Climate change isn't real the Earth is just going to natural cycles nothing needs doing.
Moderate right: Climate change might be real but its just a natural process having nothing to do with people nothing needs doing.
Centrist: Climate change is real and people might be causing it but we shouldn't do anything that would effect my 401K
Moderate Left: Climate change is definitely caused by people lets not do anything that will effect my 401 but lets give a bunch of money to people with green in the title
Center Left: Lets give even more money to things with green in the title and TRY not to effect my 401k too much
Radical Left: We need to make substantial change to preserve the only home we have even if it tanks grandpas 401k
Herein the radical position is just plain actual unvarnished reality and retreats from same are just different levels of self delusion. The climate really is changing and humans have a huge part in it and we really do need to change how we are living.
Yea I agree there's too little focus on the climate challenges om the right side of the political spectrum. Not gonna lie. Thanks for your perspective, I do appreciate it. I also think there's an issue in labeling people left/right when in fact it has nothing to do with that. It's a question of living in a fantasy world or not, truly. I don't like that at all. It's hard to be a liberalist (in the classical sense, I know you have quite special political environment in the US where "liberal" is more like slightly socialist) and yet not be segmented as a climate denier. Actually I vote blank on purpose because none of the 10 parties here are able to represent my views.