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[–] jarfil 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unless you're eating a ton of nuts and beans I fail to see how you get enough protein for 2gm of protein per lb of body weight

  • Soybean: 36gm protein per 100gm
  • Beef: 26gm protein per 100gm

Don't forget to eat your beans with that meat.

[–] applebusch 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just so you know, you don't need the m if you're talking about grams. The abbreviation is g, so 100g would be 100 grams. The metric prefixes can be used to scale your number, so 100g = 0.1kg = 100,000 mg.

[–] jarfil 5 points 1 year ago

I know, was just humoring OP.

[–] FauxPseudo -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm 206 pounds. Realistically I should be closer to 190. So for soybean to provide 380g of protein I'd need to eat a little more than a 1.05 kilos, 2.3 pounds of soybeans per day. That's an unrealistic number, especially after figuring in its endocrine disrupter issues and that the vast majority of soybeans on the market are grown with unsustainable herbicide practices. Plus eating the same thing every day is the fast track to being extremely unhealthy.

I'm not trying to argue one needs to eat meat but I am strongly suggesting that before you ever make a similar comment in the future you include way more than soybeans as an alternative. Lentils, peas, different types of beans, anything more than one. I'd probably not look at true nuts because those have their own issues with water usage. Peanuts are not true nuts. They offer 25.8g of protein per 100g. Comparable with beef but a 10th the water needed of almonds.

I avoid soy whenever I can because of the environmental and endocrine disrupter issues.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Avoids soy because of the environmental and endocrine issues, but eats beef which is worse for the environment and contains actual mammalian oestrogen

We got a dumbass carnist over here

[–] FauxPseudo 0 points 1 year ago

Did you see the part where I said I'm not recommending meat?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@FauxPseudo @jarfil You don't need 2g/lb of lean bw, though. The premise is *wildly* incorrect.

[–] FauxPseudo 0 points 1 year ago

My comment was long enough so decided not to argue their premise on how much one needs, but just focus on the problems of eating as much soy as they said it would take using their numbers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How much beef do you have to eat a day to hit the same goal?

[–] FauxPseudo 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Irrelevant. Because I specifically said I'm not recommending meat but advised they include some alternatives other than soy. Reread what I wrote. I wasn't saying meat is the way. I was saying that soy by itself is not the way. Other vegan options exist.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, so what do you think are the best foods to eat for a normal amount of protein?

[–] FauxPseudo 0 points 1 year ago

Protein isn't one thing. If you just look at the amount of total protein your body will fall apart. There are 21 amino acids that get counted in the total amount of protein you see on nutritional labels. Consume all the protein you want and it won't matter if those 21 amino acids aren't accounted for. Now the body can make more than half of them but there are 9 it can't and you must eat.

Lentils are the one of the few vegan source of all 21 amino acids. A variety of beans and rice also offer a complete protein profile. Peas are decently high in protein but you will end up deficient in methionine and cysteine if you used it as your main protein source. That can be made up with quinoa and sunflower seeds. Which might sound odd but a cold quinoa, pea salad with sunflower seeds and a vinaigrette is very tasty. Quinoa is also a complete protein but trying to live off it is a thing for the wealthy. The trick is verity. I've met too many vegans living off French fries, meets the minimum for everything but leucine, and end up very unhealthy. Don't look for one or even a couple of super protein sources. Eat a variety. It's healthier and less likely to result in burnout.