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  • Global surge in antisemitic incidents following the conflict between Hamas and Israel, affecting Jewish communities in various countries.
  • Antisemitic acts range from verbal abuse to physical assaults, often justified by anger over the Gaza conflict.
  • In areas like the U.S., Britain, France, Germany, and South Africa, antisemitic incidents have increased several hundred percent compared to the same period last year.
  • Official responses vary, with Western authorities generally quick to support Jewish communities, while some countries like China have not taken steps to curtail antisemitic content online.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

What's the religious reason people hate them?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They believe in a different version of the magic sky daddy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But theirs was the original. All of the Abrahamic religions are their religion.

[–] magikarpet 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It is varied and complicated throughout history-

  1. Pre-Christian anti-Judaism in Ancient Greece and Rome which was primarily ethnic in nature

  2. Christian antisemitism in antiquity and the Middle Ages which was religious in nature and has extended into modern times

  3. Muslim antisemitism which was—at least in its classical form—nuanced, in that Jews were a protected class

  4. Political, social and economic antisemitism during the Enlightenment and post-Enlightenment Europe which laid the groundwork for racial antisemitism

  5. Racial antisemitism that arose in the 19th century and culminated in Nazism

  6. Contemporary antisemitism which has been labeled by some as the new antisemitism

Christians have some historical antisemitism because the Jews are blamed for crucifying Jesus.

Muslims i have less knowledge, but i know in modern times they hate the founding of Israel among other reasons pertaining to “conflicting sky daddy”

Also for some other context, many practicing Jews kept traditions that made them stand out in the past. Leading to negative (and often false) stereotypes.

Lastly, it doesn't help that they proclaim themselves God’s chosen people in the eyes of outsiders.

Edit: corrected mistake

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

With respect to the Christian and Muslim antisemitism:

Christianity largely made up the crucifixion... In many capacities. But, if we take the story at face value, it would be the Romans who did it because... the Romans crucified a LOT of people.

Much of the hatred from Christianity is rooted in Judaism not banning money lending. So combine that with a lot of Christians excluding them from other professions and you had a LOT of Jewish bankers (which continues to this day with the idea that "Jews are good with money" and "Jews are great lawyers" and so forth).

But when the time came to need some extra cash to fund a Crusade or just pay for some more jewels? Suddenly the Christians (and Catholics) had a really nice and really juicy target that they could attack and rob (which is also where a lot of the Nazi targeting of Jews came from).

As for Islam? A lot of the above coupled with the Jewish people not having multiple Crusades/Jihads worth of soldiers to back up their claims to territories... so lesson learned on that front I guess.

But "the Jews were responsible for crucifying Jesus" is a complete load of nonsense. And is a long standing source of dog whistles and antisemitic hate.

[–] magikarpet 3 points 1 year ago

Nice info. I couldn't remember the details about the connection with money lending and banking, but I was trying to refer to it with the stereotypes and standing out.

Also, you are right and i edited my comment about Jews being responsible for crucifying Jesus because it is something i was taught and i know people believe it, but I am not trying to spread that information as fact.

[–] Iceblade02 1 points 1 year ago

Jews are one of the least religious ethnic groups worldwide (something like 75% are agnostic or atheist iirc) though

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But wasn't it the Romans who did that?

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, but it's been a long-standing precedent to blame the Jews anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why though? Why perpetuate such an obvious lie?

[–] Dkarma 4 points 1 year ago

If u believe the Bible it's not a lie. The Jews could have saved Jesus. They chose barrabus instead iirc.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't have the answer to that one. Maybe the same reason that lies like 'Asian men have small penises' and 'all black people are good dancers' perpetuate. It sounds good to a bigot and they just assume it's true.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That tells me there's some other undelying reason for the bigotry.

I've felt this for a long time, but the more I watch politics play out, the more justified I feel it is: I think bigotry is a kind of mental illness, a severe one, and it might be connected with other conditions that case paranoia and manic episodes like schizophrenia and bipolar disorder.

It's the only way it makes any sense.