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[–] IntrepidIceIgloo 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Biden is the most pro labor president in decades.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

That, that's the exact problem he is pointing out.

[–] BeautifulMind 22 points 1 year ago

This is true and very welcome, but TBH that's a very low bar to clear and a long time coming. Up until the Biden admin started taking action, union protections have been steadily eroded since the Reagan admin. and with that, union membership went on a decades-long collapsing trend (and with it, so did labor's buying power).

The point to my above post was that it had to get very dark for a candidate like Trump to get any oxygen whatsoever, and if there's one way to drive despair in democracy, it's to make people that grew up expecting to live middle-class lives into poor people.

[–] NoneSoVile 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The most pro labor president in decades being an union buster just reinforces the point.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Unions shouldn’t even be necessary. There are more voters than there are companies, by a very wide margin. The fact that enough people in the right places are able to be convinced to vote against improving their own conditions is really the problem.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unions are stronger than they've been in decades. Stop falling for clickbait and look at the actual results.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are they stronger due to changes by the current government? Or are they stronger because the economy is weaking and more and more people are rembering that forming/joining unions can help improve their working conditions?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't disagree that that may help, it's hard to draw a direct link between the two with the data I can see.

I guess we'll have to wait for more data to come out.

The data I can find shows no improvement to union rates over Biden's term https://www.statista.com/statistics/195349/union-membership-rate-of-employees-in-the-us-since-2000/

[–] woodenskewer 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Some unions are stronger. I'm in a union and I don't even have paid sick time after we just signed our first contract post covid. It makes me feel like it's kind of useless, but it's still better than no union. It's an extremely mediocre feeling.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The major changes and gains have all happened in the last few months. It'll take some time for the effects to spread out.

[–] lateraltwo 9 points 1 year ago

Those are decades of being wildly off course not just in labor but in environment, regulation, infrastructure, and innovation.

[–] Aleric 3 points 1 year ago

You're right, but I worry you're wrong about why you're right.