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    [–] FuglyDuck 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Windows is not “fine” aside from all the non-UI stuff, they’re UI is annoying and slow to me, they moved things behind extra clicks/commands to make it “clean”- stuff I actually use.

    And then there’s the whole tracking usage to drop adds in your notification thing… which is a privacy nightmare.

    [–] wreckedcarzz 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I mean I'm cheering for Linux adoption too, but I've never received an ad beyond the initial install crapware app stubs. I do a sweep on the system settings, clean the junk, and I'm off to the races.

    For the unsuspecting users, the privacy concerns are quite bad though.

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    On win 10 that crapware would reinstall on every feature update.

    [–] wreckedcarzz 4 points 1 year ago

    I havent had that happen, either - between 6 machines I manage and about the same number of reinstalls over the years, from 10 rtm to present 22H2 (or whatever its up to now); I've heard the claim by many, but my evidence is nil.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I keep seeing ads in my notifications on my windows installation for windows store items or bing.

    [–] wreckedcarzz 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Out of curiosity, do you have a screenshot? Unless I have always been the B/control group in A/B testing or something, it sounds super weird.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    https://i.postimg.cc/NB5Lp7ZS/195124.png Its right here with the most recent update, and no obvious way to remove them. I don't want OneDrive, I don't want Office 365. Get it out of my face.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    Truly atrocious smh

    [–] wreckedcarzz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    That's not the notification tray, though? I mean bleh but you have to go searching for that, and it is somewhat relevant given that most users are logged into their MS account, and this is the accounts settings page... am I missing something?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    No, I only boot into windows when I game, so its been a couple days since I've gotten one of the notifications.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    isn't the windows search bar a giant always on ad for edge and Bing?

    also windows advertises a lot of their cloud/subscription services in notifications and settings to me

    [–] wreckedcarzz 2 points 1 year ago

    I suppose - I always disable it as part of my initial setup steps, I have actually never used it.

    I've only seen shilling for 360 in the account panel, though. Never in the notification tray.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    yeah, through registry keys

    no normal user is going to do that

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Registry is just the settings panel in windows now

    But the normal user can download random programs off the internet to do it for them

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    bloat at best, virus at worst

    regedit isn't hard enough to justify a registry editor app

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    We are talking about normal users

    The ones whom in yesteryear would have half their browser be toolbars

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    +1

    i have to use microshite crap every day.
    It outdoes oracle at generating curse words.
    and it gets worse. i'd take windows 2000 or nt4 over whatever shit they force on me at work.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    windows peaked at windows 7/xp then went down the drain

    [–] Ziglin 1 points 1 year ago

    I liked some earlier win10 versions too but that was also before I tried Linux.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

    XP was a disaster, security-wise. Vista was better conceptually but the tech was undercooked and win7 was basically a re-skin of vista plus some extra maturity due to time.

    Then, there's the entirety of the situation around those releases. Microsoft was so mismanaged under Ballmer that even though Windows 7 was maybe their best OS, it completely missed the smartphone revolution and set them back about a decade until they could be re-spun as a cloud technologies company.

    Imagine how huge they'd be if they had successfully leveraged their desktop and business dominance to force their way on top of the mobile world.

    Tl:dr Win7 was both Microsoft's best and worst product of all time.