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[–] chemical_cutthroat 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm not arguing that it couldn't have been prevented. I'm not trying to advocate for thought crimes or anything wild like that. I'm just saying that he killed 18 people, and there is a very real chance that if he was still alive he would try to do it again, even with treatment. Now, that chance is 0%, and I think that we owe it to the 18 people who died to agree that maybe this is a fine way for things to have ended. I'm sure potential targets 19, 20, etc. agree.

It's terrible. It shouldn't happen. We should be able to help out every person in the world who is in pain. BUT WE CAN'T. Everyone loves to kick the can down the road and let the blame fall to the VA or Mental Hospitals, or whothefuckever, but no one wants to do anything about it. If you don't like it, then you need to do something about it, because not enough people are, but the minute you talk about, "I don't have the time," but hop on Lemmy to argue with strangers, or "I can't afford to take time off of work," but buy a new phone or whatthefuckever that you don't need, then realize that you are part of the problem. If you think the people of the Armed Forces need better help, then what are you doing right now? Because it sure as shit isn't helping them.

[–] pete_the_cat 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm just saying that he killed 18 people, and there is a very real chance that if he was still alive he would try to do it again, even with treatment.

And where are you getting this from? There's no way you could know that.

I can't necessarily do anything about it myself, and groups of people have been trying to usher in healthcare reform for decades but we're always blocked by lobbying groups, insurance companies that are worth billions, and people who simply don't think it's a useful way to spend money.

If you think banning guns will solve the problem, what are you doing about it? It sure as hell looks like you're doing the same thing as me, aren't you?

[–] chemical_cutthroat 0 points 1 year ago

Where am I getting it from? History. It's rare for people with mental health problems to suddenly cure themselves after a few rounds at the bowling alley. There is a very real chance he would do it again.

And when did I say anything about banning guns? When did I say I was trying to help? I'm just here to argue with strangers.