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[–] bulbasaur 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The idea that you can modify someone's genes to "enhance" them is bog standard "positive" eugenics. It's literally the definition of eugenics and it's upsetting to me that you are treating this like a debate.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1127045/

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41434-019-0088-1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_eugenics

New eugenics [...] advocates enhancing human characteristics and capacities through the use of reproductive technology and human genetic engineering.

[–] psychothumbs 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can see that you're just doing what I described and making an argument solely based on "eugenics" being a broad term that includes evil things right? What is the concern you have about letting parents modify their unborn child's genes, besides the fact that it could ungenerously be described as eugenics?

[–] bulbasaur 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's literally eugenics. There's nothing ungenerous about calling it what it is.

If you don't see the issue with genetically modifying children without their consent to "enhance" them or make them racially "superior" then I can't help you.

[–] psychothumbs 2 points 1 year ago

Children don't consent to their genes regardless. Not sure where you get "racially superior" or all these quotation marks around "enhance" - we're talking about the kind of augments we see in Star Trek, no racial component, just improved health, intelligence, strength, etc.

So yes, I am once again standing by the claim that parents should be allowed to help their children out in that way, and that we'd all be better off if doing so was possible. I guess I'm no longer expecting any reasoning from you about why such a world of healthier, tougher, smarter people would be worse except that the idea of encouraging those traits via genetic modification supposedly constitutes eugenics.