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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No. Assholes are assholes, and Elon is just an asshole with money.

Compare this man child to a billionaire like Yvon Chouinard, founder of the company Patagonia, and you'll understand that money doesn't change good people.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

No such thing as a good billionaire. The only variance is how good they are at maintaining their public image.

[–] AngryCommieKender 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You mean the guy that straight up lied about giving away his company?

https://youtu.be/0Cu6EbELZ6I?si=uzOazb8HxEy8kYsL

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the video. That guy seems to go off on a lot of tangents, sets up too many strawman and red herring fallacies. He also doesn't actually prove that Yvon is somehow evil in a way that's comparable to Elon, or that he lied about anything.

The only real criticism he had was to say that Yvon is purposely evading taxes and assigns that motive with absolute certainty (red herring).

It sounds to me like Adam has a problem with the system. Hell, he even said that it doesn't matter if good work is actually being done, because he doesn't like the idea of billionaires using their money for good. Then he goes on to give an example using Walmart (not an ethical company) and Bill Gate's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein... bizarre how he even went there as a way to disprove what Yvon has done with the company.

I'm not saying that Yvon or Patagonia are perfect. Heck, I don't give a damn about the CEO of any company, and I think I only own one of their products, so I have no loyalties at all.

But they are a for-profit business (they are very clear about that) who operates under some of the most ethical guidelines available, and they have a multi-decade proven track record of environmental stewardship and human labor practices.

We need more companies like them, even if Adam doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

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