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[–] systemglitch 162 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Where I live, the driver gets the ticket if the passenger has no seatbelt. The car doesn't move unless everyone is buckled in, because I'm not paying for someone else's laziness.

[–] Selmafudd 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah here I'm pretty sure it's the driver gets a fine and the passenger too if they're over 16yo

[–] systemglitch 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay yeah I looked it up its the same here. Both passenger and driver if the passenger is over 16.

[–] son_named_bort 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm surprised they don't enforce it for passengers 16 and under. Seatbelts are important for them too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The driver still has to pay for it, which is usually going to be your parents, who would probably be footing the bill anyways if you're that young.

[–] son_named_bort 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I misread it and thought that the driver got a citation for any adult passengers that weren't buckled in but not minor passengers. The adult passengers getting their own citations while the driver getting the citations for unbuckled minors makes a lot more sense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Actually it sounds like the driver gets the citation either way. If the passenger is a minor, that's it, but adult passengers get cited in addition to their drivers.

[–] systemglitch 1 points 1 year ago

The other guy summed it up, but I'd like to add that children can't be held to the same standards as adults. Still developing brains and all that jazz, which is why it becomes the adults responsibility.

[–] Lev_Astov 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And for good reason. A single unbelted person in the car is a serious threat to everyone else in an accident. You could end up paying for it with your life if you let it slide. I think the statistic is something like a 20% increased risk of death in an accident when a single passenger is unbuckled.

And I hate that "aren't you a good driver" idiocy. Sure, but aren't all those other drivers on the road the worst?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I've read some stories about this happening from people who work in the ER. Having someone else's teeth pulled from your skull doesn't sound like the best way to go.

I kind of wonder if these people understand momentum.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's interesting, in Germany aslong as the passenger is an adult it's no longer the drivers responsibility whether that passenger cares about their own safety. The fines go up fast for children though.

[–] systemglitch 3 points 1 year ago

It used to be similiar here, but they changed things around a decade ago

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends 2 points 1 year ago

This is the way.