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This article contains descriptions of violence which some readers may find distressing.

The Israeli military held a screening for journalists on Monday of raw footage recovered from Hamas body cameras, in an effort to remind the world of the brutality of the attack on Israel two weeks ago.

The bodycam footage, cut together with clips from CCTV, dashboard cameras and the mobile phones of both Hamas gunmen and victims, showed in stark detail the sheer horror visited on a music festival and family neighbourhoods in southern Israel.

The Israeli military also released documents which they said were recovered from dead Hamas members, containing detailed operational planning and instructions for attacking the neighbourhoods and taking hostages.

The 43 minutes of footage screened in Tel Aviv on Monday was distilled from hundreds of hours of footage collected since the attack, the Israeli military said. It contained clips of Hamas gunmen cheering with apparent joy as they shot civilians on the road, and later stalking the pathways of kibbutzim and killing parents and children in their homes.

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[–] ExcursionInversion 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about.... What about ..... What about... What about..

[–] HappycamperNZ 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

... the economy???? (/s)

Seriously though, fully agree

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Fully agree that one atrocity completely justifies a counter-genocide and you're committing a logical fallacy to bring that up?

Well, it's not an uncommon take among the powers that be.

[–] HappycamperNZ 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Opposite - screaming "what about x/y/z" doesn't degrade the value of this item. This was an item posted among a sea of violence and death, and bringing up others doesn't write this one off.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The point of crying about "whataboutism" is specifically to dismiss points made about both sides being awful, with civilians caught in the middle.

[–] HappycamperNZ 0 points 1 year ago

No its not - it provides a different narrative to distract from the arguement infront of you and give you something different to be argued for. Exactly what its doing now.

This is a video showing people being murdered. Doesn't matter which side is which it can't be justified by saying someone tangently related to this did something worse. Fuck what else is going on, this is a disgusting scenario that played out.