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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I dunno, I don't believe in a god, but I also don't believe humans are good either. We're pretty fucked up creatures.

[–] Slice 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To quote MIB: A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.

I think it applies pretty broadly that individuals are decent but organized into society, we mess up quite a bit.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I always say that the idea of civilised society is something we tell ourselves to make us feel better about the fact that we're living amongst wild animals.

[–] agent_flounder 15 points 1 year ago

We are a very mixed bag.

There are a range of people from altruistic to greedy sociopaths. And few if any are so simple that "good" or "bad" is a sufficient descriptor.

Humans evolved to be cooperative, on average, only to such a degree to enable us to survive. On the surface we can mostly not maim and kill each other enough to work together on things.

But we have many competing motivations and instincts. We aren't far enough removed from our violent ape ancestors to my taste. As one can see by reading the news on any given day.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Wars, capitalism, climate change, rape, murder, torture, religious extremism, mass starvation while we throw out food because someone failed to buy it, etc.

The default state of humans is good

Fuckin lmao 🤦