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Muslim and Arab Americans say their support was critical to Biden’s winning Michigan in 2020. Some warn they won’t back him again over his blanket support for Israel.

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[–] S_204 65 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Islam and far right Christianity have a lot in common. Wouldn't surprise me that the Muslim community would side with the party that wants to limit women's rights and LGBTQ rights.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Honestly it's shocking how most religions veer right in the most extreme groups. Ultra orthodox anything tends to lead to traditional but extreme sexism, cultishness, and xenophobia, or in other words, the GOP.

[–] pennomi 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not shocking at all. If your religion encourages open mindedness, people will open their minds. This gives them the opportunity to leave whenever they want.

But a religion that exerts control over its members tends to trap people into it, therefore growing over time. So we see that successful religions tend towards extremism, because they are more “fit”, in a Darwinist sense.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's not shocking. The right, conservatism, can be explained by asking what it is they want to conserve. What do conservatives want to conserve?

The answer is traditional societal norms, hierarchies and power structures. From here it isnt a big jump to understand why religions and conservatism often go hand in hand.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, it certainly isn't the environment they're attempting to conserve.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, it's the traditional societal norms of environmental exploitation for immediate personal and private gain they want to conserve.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Extreme religious groups are the most controlling. Authoritarianism is the defining characteristic of the right. It's no surprise they go together.

[–] sailingbythelee 1 points 1 year ago

From my reading of history, authoritarianism is the defining feature of the extremes of any part of the political spectrum. Why? Because the average person, almost by definition, is a moderate within the context of their own society. Once an extreme ideology takes power, it either has to use authoritarian techniques to maintain power, or it will lose power fairly quickly if the people are allowed a say. That's true regardless of political stripe, which is why democracy is so important.

[–] saraabi 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My dude Arab and Muslim Americans vote for Democrats by like, a 5 to 1 margin, and the Muslims in Congress are among the most progressive in the country. They're saying they don't want to vote for a president enabling ethnic cleansing and THIS is what you're taking from that?

[–] S_204 3 points 1 year ago

Arab and Muslim activists are currently working with the Conservative party in my jurisdiction to institute clear anti trans laws so yes, I'm taking reality away from this article. I'm literally watching it happen right in front of me, thankfully saner votes prevailed in our last election.