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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Forty-one percent of Biden supporters say they believe people who support the Republican party and its ideologies have become “so extreme in what they want that it is acceptable to use violence to stop them from achieving their goals.” Likewise, 38 percent of Trump supporters say it is OK to use violence to stop Democrats from achieving their goals.

This poll seems very wrong. 41% of Biden supporters say it is acceptable to use violence to stop Trump supporters instead of democratic voting? And who put this out? The Hill?

Democrats can win in a democracy. It is the Republicans that want to rule us because democracy isn't working for them anymore.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Democrats: "It's okay to use violence to stop the overthrow of a democratically elected government."

Republicans: "It's okay to use violence to stop trangender bathrooms from teaching my kid critical race theory"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

"It's okay to use violence to overthrow a democratically elected government" (this has been attempted once already, and its attempt is still being embraced by people who were themselves democratically elected), while also decrying anyone who would dare to physically stand in their way.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (29 children)

I think it's the notion that punching Nazis is not only acceptable, it's necessary. Democrats have not initiated widespread violence against democracy, not the way Republicans have embraced it. Democrats are preparing to defend themselves, and are waiting for Republicans to initiate another civil war.

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[–] divineslayer 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not how I read it. The poll is saying that 41% of Biden supporters believe that Republicans will use violence. Not that they would use violence themselves.

[–] GenesisJones 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The quoted text literally says that they feel it's okay to use violence to stop Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To stop them from overthrowing the constitution and democracy itself? Absolutely we will.

[–] sturmblast 3 points 1 year ago

you bet your ass

[–] Jessvj93 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah if they run up on the Capitol again I hope more action is done this time. Itll stop their goals, that's what I would have put on that poll. You can't stop bullies by being nice/patient.

[–] GenesisJones 1 points 1 year ago

I too could go for some "action"

[–] divineslayer 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I think you're right. My first read of it bypassed the "stop them" and I thought it was just saying they were extreme enough to use violence.

[–] GenesisJones 2 points 1 year ago

It's all good. I just don't see it being read any other way. I don't really know if they are wrong tbh. Being tolerant of intolerance paradox and all that