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[–] what_is_a_name 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It seriously saddens me how much 25 years of GOP propaganda against the Clintons has turned reasonable people among Democrats and those further to the left into parrots that try to pin everything on Hillary or Bill.

There are legitimate criticisms of The Clintons. But they are way less involved than people give them credit for.

To your comment, I have seen no mention of Hillary - then Secretary of State dealing with multiple conflicts - having any involvement in ACA. She had plenty other work. And there were other key advisors Obama picked that were the actually directly tasked with putting together ACA and making it pass.

[–] Kethal 1 points 1 year ago

The question was which Democrats support this healthcare system, and Hillary Clinton is certainly one of them. She repeatedly took credit as a primary force in what eventually became ACA. She even claims "It was called Hillarycare before it was called Obamacare". This is very easy to find, so one wonders how long you searched. One can certainly take issue with how much credit she deserves and how much of the Clinton plan even ended up in the ACA, but one cannot possibly claim that someone trying to claim credit for ACA doesn't support it. ACA does little to separate insurance from your employer, the topic of this article, and a serious problem with the US health care system that neither Republicans nor Democrats are addressing. Are people just talking about whatever they want on this thread, or are we talking about the topic of the article?