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| /c/CFB Poll Top 25 |  |
|---|---|
| 1. ~~Ohio State~~ |  |
| 2. Oregon |  |
| 3. Texas |  |
| 4. Notre Dame |  |
| T-5. Georgia |  |
| T-5. Penn State |  |
| 7. SMU |  |
| 8. ~~Miami~~ |  |
| 9. Indiana |  |
| 10. Tennessee |  |
| 11. South Carolina |  |
| 12. ~~Clemson~~ | |
| 13. Boise State |  |
| 14. Arizona State |  |
| 15. Ole Miss |  |
| T-16. Alabama |  |
| T-16. Iowa State |  |
| T-16. ~~Tulane~~ |  |
| 19. BYU |  |
| 20. Army |  |
| 21. ~~Texas A&M~~ |  |
| 22. Colorado |  |
| 23. Illinois |  |
| 24. UNLV |  |
| 25. ~~Kansas State~~ |  |
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Yeah, I keep wondering if I made a mistake inputting the data with y'all. It always has A&M (and Texas) really high every year even when either of us underperform (which is pretty often). It must speak to the talent on our teams due to the numbers they put up and the fact they rarely have bad losses.
Looks like your computer poll and mine are built around opposite philosophies. I think it's great the community is getting a variety of methods. And we certainly need human polls/eye tests to balance out some of the weirdness our algorithms create (like JMU in the top 10??)
Yeah, I think that describes A&M this season (every season?) really well: they have good talent, but they underperform. So if your algorithm is looking more at potential, recruiting ranks, stat rankings, then A&M should be good on paper. We just don't win the games.
And yes, JMU in particular has been giving me heartburn every week questioning the validity of my poll. But just to provide a comparison, the average ranking of the teams JMU has beaten is 80.0 (based on my rankings) whereas the average ranking of the teams Georgia has beaten is 99.3, so it makes sense JMU gets the higher rank for now (fun fact: Georgia has the lowest strength of schedule of all the undefeated teams, hence their low ranking). Since my system doesn't care at all about expectations/stats/brand name/eye test and is only based on comparing wins/losses, weird rankings like that will happen even though I know if JMU and Georgia played it wouldn't be close. But those oddities tend to go away as the season progresses.
Definitely agree, it's fun that everyone has a different way of slicing the rankings and everyone's poll is different. It gives us something to compare and argue about, and a lot of the fun of college football is arguing about rankings.