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NY bill would require a criminal history background check for the purchase of a 3D printer::Requires a criminal history background check for the purchase of a three-dimensional printer capable of creating firearms; prohibits sale to a person who would be disqualified on the basis of criminal history from being granted a license to possess a firearm.

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[–] Fondots 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It doesn't matter what it's called, they'll continue to oppose addressing it

That doesn't mean we need to make it easy for them to oppose it. Don't give them a stupid way to dismiss the conversation before it even gets off the ground, make them actually defend their position that private sales shouldnt need background checks.

IMO, getting stuck calling it the gun show loophole when there are better things to call it because that's what everyone has always called it has the same kind of energy as conservative assholes who refuse to learn a person's pronouns or old people who never bothered to scrub things like "colored" or "oriental" from their vocabulary. Language can, does, and should change with the times, and we need to keep up with it.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like bikeshedding to me.

[–] Fondots 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Them getting caught up on you calling it the gun show loophole is bikeshedding, and you can solve it by the simple action of calling it something else.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again, there is no possible combination of words that will make the pro-gun community support its closure and you're doing them a massive favor by implying they have a role in the conversation at all.

With Google searches for "private sale loophole" returning results for "gun show loophole" (as well as information about the origin of the term), it could just as easily be argued that you're muddying the waters for semantics.

So I'll just keep using whatever phrase gets my point across and you can use whatever words you want in the gun-control comments you don't seem to be making, to placate people who don't seem to exist, so they don't use a talking point that's trivial to address.

[–] Fondots 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not about changing the gun nuts' minds, like you said, it's not going to happen, but there's a whole lot of people out there without strong feelings one way or another, who don't know about what laws are out there, and who are potentially open to being persuaded to your way of thinking, and if you want to convince them of your position, you don't want to give your opposition an easy opportunity to derail the conversation and make it look like you don't know what you're talking about and they do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Fine. I'll never call it a gun show loophole again. Anything to stop this tedious discussion of semantics for a situation I've never found myself in.