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[–] alvvayson 124 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also Fox News.

And to be honest, the problem is much deeper.

America was founded on racism and slavery. The belief that white people are superior to brown and black people sits very deep with many Americans.

The enthouisam of those Americans to see Palestinian children die in Gaza is just vile and disgusting.

I really hope that the more progressive and enlightened Americans can figure out how to get rid of it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The enthouisam of those Americans to see Palestinian children die in Gaza is just vile and disgusting.

The real irony is many of those same folks are anti-Jewish in nearly every other context.

I really hope that the more progressive and enlightened Americans can figure out how to get rid of it.

I thought a lot of this shit was settled already when I was a kid. Turns out it not only wasn't, but we've managed to roll some things backwards since then. I waffle between being sure we've got the critical mass to make lasting change now and beingg sure my great grandkids are going to be fighting and arguing over all these same issues.

[–] TechyDad 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As an American Jew, I've almost gotten used to antisemitism from the right. From being told to my face "the only thing Hitler did wrong was not finishing the job" to having public Jewish displays vandalized to literal Nazis marching in the street being referred to as "very fine people."

What has surprised me recently was the number of anti-semitic comments from the left. I'm fine with people criticizing Israel and pushing for better treatment of the Palestinian people. That's not antisemitism and I'd actually agree with them. However, I've seen people on the left celebrating the attack, making fun of babies being killed, and even claiming that an attack on an American temple and bakery are justified because they are "symbols of the Jewish/Zionist state."

I know many on the left aren't anti-semitic, but it just feels so frightening to be targeted from both sides of the aisle - especially for Israel's actions when I, as an American Jew, have zero control over what they do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I can only empathize - I don't have a similar situation but I'm sure it's difficult and creates a feeling of unease.

Sorry!

I'm definitely on the side that feels Israel takes their reaction too far when things like this happen, but I can't justify blaming individual Israeli citizens for that, let alone US Jews. It's just a bad situation over there, and far too many people have what they think are fair reasons to justify their hatred.

[–] grue 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The real irony is many of those same folks are anti-Jewish in nearly every other context.

Yep. It's not that conservatives give a shit about Jews; they very much don't. What they care about is Israel existing as a precondition for Armageddon so that they can get Raptured. In other words, they're psychopathic doomsday cultists and their support of Israel is purely selfish.