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if they outright forced us to stop day one there'd be outrage, so they instead ease us in. first a popup, then a timed popup, slowly leading to their actual goal but without the risk of an initial outrage. i know this is an extreme comparison but we're like lambs to a slaughter

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How can YouTube interfer with adblockers in Firefox/Librewolf/IceCat?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Client side web DRM is coming, which is why Google makes browsers and OSs now.

Adblock will be prohibited for “security”.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Relevant link: https://interpeer.io/blog/2023/07/google-vs-the-open-web/
Bottom line: Google want to introduce a live certification process for web clients so that webservers can potentially discriminate against specific configurations.

@[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And how much power does Google have to force that on websites that reject it and users who use Lbrewolf or IceCat?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

All the power that an advertisement network can buy. Especially youtube since it's owned by google. And advertisers will be happy to have a way of forcing site visitors to run ads/malware or else they will not get served the content.
It's similar to certain bank apps refusing to function on Android devices with an unlocked bootloader: you want the convenience of an e-banking application (/ad-driven corporate website)? -- Your device (/web browser) "security" must be verified by the "authority" who actually owns your operating system, else you won't. Everyone* will "be loving" their secure devices, because they "just work".

^*who^ ^is^ ^a^ ^potential^ ~~^customer^~~ ^buyer^ ^and^ ^therefore^ ^relevant^

Google is trying to use their dominance to actually own the www. The comment/issue section of the github site of the proposal is quite enlightening, if you have the time ... especially their reactions on the general dismissal and condemnation of the proposal as unethical.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I do not use the native YouTube website. I do not have a Google/Gmail account. I do not use chromium, Chrome, or Edge, or Brave. I disable webscrpts and manually temporarily enable them as needed with all webscripts disabled again after Ivclose the browser. I don't use nathive Android or iPhone. I have all 3rd party scripts and cookies blocked by default.

I never interact with any Google tracking or Google service on any of my electronic devices. I do not use Google search. Whatever happens with Google I will not see since I do not access anything Google on a monthly basis.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nothing you said answers my post.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The answer is client side DRM.