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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Dystopian is an utopia turning bad.

It literally is the exact opposite of a utopia, and does not require there to have first ever been a utopia regress into a bad state.

[–] Zeth0s 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
  • AI and autonomous vehicles: utopia
  • AI and autonomous vehicles to kill: dystopian

This is one of the most frustrating thread I've ever partecipated. Why discussions on weapons always turn out like talking to spoilt 4 years old kids.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it's frustrating because you have your own, random as fuck definitions for words that nobody else shares.

[–] Zeth0s 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's not the reason, but thank for trying guessing. Appreciated

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Hey, for what it's worth I think most people here understand you completely. A killing robot is dystopian, and anyone arguing otherwise is being dense as hell.

[–] Zeth0s 4 points 11 months ago

Thanks :)

It helps!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

You must not have actually understood him then. He's said this isn't dystopian because it doesn't kill automatically (after also saying it is "alpha dystopian"). It's still dystopian, regardless of whether it can shoot on its own. Every machine of war is.

[–] A_A 3 points 11 months ago

I appreciate your writing here at Lemmy and I find it easy to misread previous comments.

So, I would like to try to clarify what happened here :
Nuke wrote : "So automated driving is dystopian?" (+...) Then, @[email protected] answered : "It is not." (+...)

Because of the rest of their comments I misread it the same way you did and I had to go back and read again (or at least my first reading was the same as what you explain).

it would be nice if you took it on a positive note since on the whole you and @[email protected] are saying the same thing.

in the hope of reading more of you, take care 🌸.

[–] Zeth0s 2 points 11 months ago

I struggle to understand whether you are trolling. I said this thing is dystopian. It looks like the alpha version of the bad robot from robocop movie