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Pressure grows on Apple to open up iMessage::Samsung has joined Google’s campaign to force Apple to make iMessage RCS-compatible—but European regulators are more likely to get that job done.

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[–] echo64 126 points 8 months ago (54 children)

The pressure doesn't matter, apple makes a legitimate amount of money from people scared of being a different colored bubble. Unless someone actually writes it into law and makes a provision that all the bubbles must appear the same, nothing will change

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I’m pretty confident the blue and green colors have nothing to do with it. It’s simply the difficulties of using sms (or at least how Apple implements sms). iMessage allows much higher quality videos/images to be sent and enables group chats to be dynamic where people can be added and removed at will. On iOS sms group chats have to be made with every member in it at creation, if you want to add another person or remove a person then you have to make a whole new group chat. Compound this with iPhone dominance in North America it often presents an annoyance where the single android user forces all the iPhone users to use sms and all the difficulties/reduced features it comes with.

WhatsApp, Telegram, and whatever chat app isn’t used in NA because it’s just harder to convince someone to download and make an account. Why should a user download another chat app? Why isn’t iMessage (sms) app good enough? Usually I’ve seen people just use instagram to chat with android users because sms is just so bad (at least on iOS, I’ve heard some things about how android works around the limitations).

Yes Apple could implement better sms features but they won’t.

So don’t just parrot “it’s because of the colors” it’s most likely due to users association with past experiences of “green chat bubbles”.

Apple is still to blame here but it’s not because users are scared. Most iPhone users or phone users in general just want it to work and never think about what features they’re missing. Asking/convincing someone to download yet another app and set up yet another account to yet again be spammed by emails, texts, phone calls is just too much for a majority of people who are used to the simplicity of iMessage. It comes with your phone, you make a single Apple account, and it just works™.

[–] vector_zero 5 points 8 months ago

I’m pretty confident the blue and green colors have nothing to do with it.

You'd be surprised. A lot of girls won't date someone if they don't have the right colored chat bubbles.

[–] echo64 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

"Where every single android user forces iPhone uses to use sms" Apple forces this, they are very happy to do this, to make iPhone users hate the different colored bubbles and for people to absolutely not want to be the different colored bubbles.

It's everything to do with the bubbles. You can't say it isn't. People literally talk about this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Exactly? From an iPhone users viewpoint the android phone is forcing them to use sms. I go on to say Apple is to blame.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

SMS=carrier junk.

RCS=Google junk.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Apple has nothing to do with the SMS junk other than allowing that junk to work because it is legacy.

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