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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

I still can't understand why americans still tolerate tip culture.

We don't have mandatory tips in Europe and still have people working at McDonald's or similar restaurants : In France, it's even one of the biggest employer of the country.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can't say for all of Europe, but at least in France it's simply included in the bill at most restaurants. Around 15%. It's not that different in the end. Just easier to forget about it as the prices on the menu are service included.
For restaurants at least. Not talking about fast foods.

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Les serveurs reçoivent un salaire décent et ne dépendent pas des pourboires, et les cafés et restaurants sont tenus par la loi d'inclure des frais de service (personnel et les couverts pour un montant généralement 15 %) sur la facture depuis 1984

https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pourboire

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not that different in the end. Just easier to forget about it as the prices on the menu are service included.

That's entirely different, if it's mandated by law workers don't have to compete or beg for tips.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Okay, let me rephrase then, it's not that different for the customer. You have to pay for it, it's included in your bill...
OP said we don't have mandatory tips in France. We literally do, they are including in the bill. They are not called tips but service charge, but that's the same thing considering tips are in fact service charge in the US. But yeah sure they don't have to ask for it.

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