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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you do realize china is a capitalist dictatorship, and the soviet union was also turned into a dictatorship, right?

Pointing at dictatorships and acting like they're some amazing gotcha for an ideology they claim to follow is something even elementary grade school kids realize is dumb.

[–] Earthwormjim91 -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

China wasn’t capitalist under Mao.

And yeah that’s kinda my point. You cannot have socialism without a dictatorship. That’s like explicitly in Marx’s writings. The term is dictatorship of the proletariat.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictatorship_of_the_proletariat

It’s a fundamental cornerstone of Marxism. A dictatorship with a monopoly on force is necessary to transition from a capitalist society to a communist society by forcibly seizing the means of production and using force to prevent counterrevolution.

The problem is that once you give that dictatorial power to a state, you can’t get it back.

[–] CosmicCleric 2 points 1 year ago

You cannot have socialism without a dictatorship.

You can't have a socialist society under democracy?