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[–] OccamsTeapot 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So if Russia had better equipment, training, army etc, on par with the US for example, so there was no realistic way they would ever get it back, or if other countries weren't giving as much aid, then they should just accept the "two state solution"? Do you really think that?

In Israel, there is NO realistic path towards them EVER getting territory back from Israel.

Also I don't really agree with this framing. Perhaps it's not likely but Israel could acknowledge that people have been removed from their homes and allow Palestinians back into their towns with equal rights. Super easily. They could remove illegal settlements. Etc etc etc. These things are choices that it is totally possible for any compassionate human in a position of power to make.

I agree that this is not going to happen (lacking a compassionate human with sufficient power, maybe) but let's not pretend such a thing is impossible.

[–] flossdaily 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, I really, truly believe that if my choice was smaller country, with sovereignty, vs an unwinnable war with an overpowering force, I would ABSOLUTELY make peace so that my kid could grow up in a world with a chance of prospering.

It's not even a hard decision.

[–] OccamsTeapot 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then the bullies get their way and everybody else just has to deal with it. It just doesn't sit well with me.

They are the ones with the power to stop this and they are the ones who choose not to. I blame people fighting to be able to oppress others much more than I blame people wanting to fight for their freedom.

[–] flossdaily 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Congratulations, you've just discovered how national sovereignty works, and how it's always worked.

[–] OccamsTeapot 1 points 1 year ago

And you seem to think injustices are fine if there is a loosely-defined set of norms backing it up. Thanks for the chat