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LoglineCommander Una Chin-Riley faces court-martial along with possible imprisonment and dishonorable dismissal from Starfleet, and her defense is in the hands of a lawyer who’s also a childhood friend with whom she had a terrible falling out.


Written by Dana Horgan

Directed by Valerie Weiss

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Surprised that they never got Pike to the stand, especially after Una confessing that she told Pike 4 months ago.

I think Pasalk was pretty out of line with his approach - his questioning essentially amounted to a criminal investigation of someone else. My knowledge of law isn't very strong, but that seems inappropriate.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You generally can't make people incriminate themselves, and upping a charge from fraud to conspiracy would be exactly that. That is, in a court run by laws instead of TV logic she could've remained silent.

...unless there's some special sauce in US law that says "once you take the stand" or something, dunno I don't speak common law and Trek can't help itself but assume US law but it definitely doesn't look kosher.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the US, wouldn't she be able to plead the 5th?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

TNG's "The Drumhead" shows us that Federation law (or at least Starfleet Military Code of Justice) includes a similar right. Crewman Simon Tarses invokes the Seventh Guarantee when asked about his Romulan heritage.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's definitely possible that the Seventh Guarantee wasn't part of the Code of Justice until after this incident, too. Maybe there's a push for it after the United Federation of Planets v. Una Chin-Riley ruling because of the conduct of Pasalk.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It's possible. In all cases, Batel clearly states to Pike in the mess that the interrogated person has to answer.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

There's nothing that beats the knowledge of the collective!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I couldn't help but wonder whether they're setting him up as a badmiral or it was just Chekov's gun from the Vulcan brawl. If the latter, they did a lousy job of tying them together ... I was going with option A while watching and only considered B afterward.