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Finland ranked seventh in the world in OECD's student assessment chart in 2018, well above the UK and the United States, where there is a mix of private and state education

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[–] afraid_of_zombies -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if nationwide absolute mediocre student body was a goal banning private schools wouldn't achieve it.

Next you would have to ban tutoring companies, after that you would have to ban test prep, after that private tutors, after that you would need restrictions on funding for all schools (which wouldn't work since not all schools have the exact same funding needs), you would still have advantages. One kid is closer to the library, one kid has a parent who was a teacher, one kid has a stay at home parent with the resources to help them with homework, etc.

Nothing short of an absolute police state of fairness would be able to achieve this.

[–] someguy3 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Next you would have to ban tutoring companies, after that you have to ban test prep

Lol no you don't have to. Nice slippery slope. You do what the government can do, which is fund schools. This is really easy, but you want to slippery slope that it must lead to all these other fearmongering things which it doesn't. Like lol at, sorry to say, your absurdity.

So back to schools. You fund them all the same. Where I live all public schools are funded the same in the whole province. This is really easy.

[–] afraid_of_zombies -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It isn't a slippery slope. It is me showing you what is needed to achieve the goal. A slippery slope is when someone argues that if A then B must follow and hasn't justified it, it is not at all the same as me saying if your goal is X you will need to do what you just said and more.

You fund them all the same.

I highly doubt your province is doing that because it doesn't freaken work. This school has more kids that have special needs, this other school has more kids whose parents speak a different language at home, this school needed a major boiler upgrade last year, this school has poor students so needs to provide more school supplies, this school is more remote so they had to pay extra to get X, this school is more urban so it needs to pay all teachers a bit more, this school had an unusually low number of 2nd graders this year.......

No government is so fucking stupid to try to do what you are saying. You can start with a baseline funding number and modify it as needed but you aren't saying that. You are saying the equivalent of lawful stupid alignment for accounting.

[–] someguy3 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude it's a slippery slope, you literally went off how you "have to" ban all these other things. And the answer is simple, no you don't have to ban those other things.

Oh I see what you're doing, you're making a bad faith argument ad absurdem. That it must be 1000000% equal, no adjustments for anything, ever!!!! Wow and lol. If I really to spell it out, you fund based on number of students of each ____. Yes repairs and maintenance are funded as they are needed lol. Yes you have baseline funding for small schools.

In the small chance that any of what you say is good faith, you seem to be stuck in this it must be 10000000000% equal!!!!!!!!!!!! mentality. Ban everything!!!!!!!!! To make it 10000000% equal!!! mentality.

Dude, this is really simple. Fund public schools well. See above. Peace.

[–] afraid_of_zombies -1 points 1 year ago

Nope. I told you what you need to accomplish your goals and I pointed out your lie about how funding is happening in your province.