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[–] Dkarma 132 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Why does anyone think Israel was there first??? Lmfao. Their own Torah says otherwise.

"God gave this to us" isn't a legitimate argument.

[–] _number8_ 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i think most people don't know the history and just figure it's a normal country we're allied with for the normal sort of reasons

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I think this is the one relationship where people do know some version of the history.

[–] Cerbero 18 points 1 year ago

Even less when they wrote it themselves.

[–] c0mbatbag3l 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kinda hard to ungenocide the groups that originally lived there, though.

[–] Dkarma 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The cannaanites? Yeah man the Bible says the Jews drove them out.

[–] Sanctus 4 points 1 year ago

But its cool cause like Baal worship or something.

[–] ASeriesOfPoorChoices 4 points 1 year ago

But it's basically the same argument the USA used.

Manifest Destiny.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_destiny

[–] luckyhunter 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"we took it fair and square" works actually here and there.

[–] Dkarma 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But they didn't take it fair and square. Thats kind of the whole point here.

[–] luckyhunter -1 points 1 year ago

possession and firepower determines what is fair and square.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As it happens, they and the Canaanites were both Semitic peoples. In this particular point it's probably inaccurate to consider Canaanites and Hebrews as seperate people at all. The Exodus from Egypt is both largely mythological and, one might note, was probably any freed slaves returning home instead of seeking new lands.

The Semitic groups (which includes Arabs) are basically everyone not Persian or Turk in southwest Asia.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Both proto-jews and Arabs inhabited the land currently known as Isreal. It should be noted that the proto-Jews left the lands before actually becoming Jews.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because Arabs came there only in 600year a.c. While Israely were there from 10 000 b.c. Along with other tribes, but not Arabs. But then Arabs made up Muslim and started claiming everything and being cry babis if not allowed.

[–] Dkarma 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't believe a book where all people started from Adam and Eva having two sons, one of them died and second one giving birth to more man etc, without women. Where they fucking goats? Also this book is stupidly bloody, unjust and outright dumb.

[–] Dkarma 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's funny cuz that is exactly what Israel is basing their claim of this land on.