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The mother of tattoo artist Shani Louk who was paraded semi-naked on a Hamas truck makes a public plea for more information (www.businessinsider.com)

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The mother of a woman whose body was paraded through the streets by Hamas has pleaded for help finding her daughter.

A video showing German tattoo artist Shani Louk on the back of a pickup truck circulated on social media after the Palestinian militant group Hamas attacked Israel on October 7.

Louk had been attending an outdoor "Festival for Peace" party near Kibbutz Urim when the area was targeted. First, rockets were launched, then gunmen and appeared and shot into the crowd, CNN reported. Party attendees told the outlet people immediately started to flee, passing dead bodies on the ground as they tried to escape the massacre.

The attack and resulting conflict has left hundreds of Israelis and Palestinians dead, with Israel's prime minister declaring war.

A video of a young woman with dreadlocks on the back of a pickup truck and surrounded by Hamas soldiers started circulating on social media shortly after the attack. In it, she appears stripped to her underwear, and her legs are bent at unnatural angles, while one soldier grabs her hair. People are also seen spitting on her body.

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[+] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] snek 2 points 1 year ago

I'm wondering if you'd read this: https://www.btselem.org/press_releases/2021413_new_all_population_israeli_palestinian_survey

What do you think of these? I think it's a much better analysis of public opinion among Jewish and Palestinian residents.

[–] snek -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A noteworthy survey from the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (PCPSR) unveiled that 58% in Gaza and 42% in the West Bank favor Hamas. Intriguingly, younger Palestinians and Gaza residents displayed stronger support, especially those viewing Hamas as Palestine’s ideal representative and resistor against Israel.

Those are the stats from 2021. Yes, so what about the other 50%? Do you think there is a bit more complication going into supporting Hamas? Or does that conclusion lead you to "they are assholes"? My question is, how? Walk me through your reasoning.

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[–] snek 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, I’m sure that they have reasons to be assholes,

Is apartheid a good enough reason, in your opinion?

Also, what would your reaction be if I said something like The majority of Jewish people are assholes? And then to prove it, what if I just linked to this survey from B'Tselem that states:

An interesting finding shows only tepid support for the Nation State Basic Law that establishes Jewish supremacy as a constitutional principle, a law that was enacted with broad political support from most of the Zionist parties:

Over one third of all Israelis support repealing the Nation State law (36% of all Israelis, and 29% of Jews).

Only 46% of Israelis (53% of Jews) support keeping the law as is (the remainder take no position).

These numbers show that only one-third of Jewish people residing in Israel or in the occupied territories believe that this Jewish supremacy law should be removed.

So at this point, is it useful in any way or even descriptive of the situation at hand to say The majority of Jewish people are assholes? Is it acceptable? Is it racist?

I think there is a lot of misuse of statistics being done here. No single survey can show us the truth accurately, but surveys and statistics can only bring us closer to understanding the big picture.

Saying things like *The majority of Palestinians are assholes" makes you come off as a one-dimensional character with cartoon reasoning.