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  • A video showed Shani Louk's naked body being paraded through Gaza on the back of a Hamas truck.

  • Her family told Der Spiegel that Louk's bank said her credit card had been used in Gaza.

  • More than 600 Israelis have died and over 100 have been captured by Hamas, Israel says.

Shani Louk, the young woman whose naked body was seen in the back of a pick-up truck driven by Hamas fighters through Gaza, may have also been robbed, a report suggests.

The parents have not heard from their daughter since a phone call early on the morning of October 7, just after Hamas launched the first rockets into Israeli territory.

But in an interview with German news outlet Der Spiegel, the family said they had received information from her bank that the tattoo artist's credit card had been used in Gaza.

Louk's mother, Ricarda Louk, still holds out hope that her daughter might still be alive, saying in a video posted to X, formerly known as Twitter, that she saw her daughter "unconscious in a car with Palestinians."

"I just don't want to admit it yet," she told Der Spiegel.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cool, revolution when? If 47% disagree, it should be pretty quick, that's well beyond the critical mass needed for a successful revolution. Until then don't claim that Palestinians don't support Hamas.

Do we think that every individual in Palestine supports them? No. Do we think Palestinians in general support them? Yes.

[–] snek 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Until then don’t claim that Palestinians don’t support Hamas.

Come on, this is a generalization. It doesn't take two people to see this is a blanket statement. Do you agree it's a blanket statement?

Do we think that every individual in Palestine supports them? No. Do we think Palestinians in general support them? Yes.

If this is what you are trying to say, then you are both (1) bad at expressing it, and (2) incorrect.

(1) if this was your point form the start, why not say this instead of a blanket statement? and (2) where is the "in general" in a survey with an almost perfect split in the middle and with support for Hamas changing every year, increasing during times of conflict and trauma, and decreasing during times when Hamas is shit at managing Gaza as a residential area?

To reiterate:

Do we think Palestinians in general support them?

No. That would be bad math and almost intentionally misreading the situation to polarize it.

Cool, revolution when?


Edit: I just want to comment on this part

Cool, revolution when?

So you've set a personally high bar for Palestinians, this is not a situation that is reasonable or would happen easily or would help us make any conclusion. This is like saying, "Israel in general supports Netanyahu because no one has started a revolution yet."

Now it starts to sound stupid, you see.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Now it starts to sound stupid, you see.

Does it, though? You might be mistaking me as someone who's on Israel's side or who's picking any side in this. My stance is that both sides suck and that yes, some revolution would be real nice on both sides.