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Or when a product requires an app to function instead of just putting some buttons on the thing. The apps also tend to want access to everything too. 🙄🤦♂️
Because the device you bought is just a gateway for the company to access the real product, you. You're paying them so they can access your information.
The sad reality of today.
The sadder part is how most don't seem to give a fuck about this.
Products are usually priced lower than cost and seem like a good deal to the average consoomer, they don't think about why it's so cheap.
See free Amazon Alexa deals for example
Solvable: just put these apps on an old smartphone with nothing else on it and that you don't use anymore then put it on the guest wireless network without access to anything else 😁
Good luck to look for something is not there...
Unfortunately they often force round trip to go through their Internet services, so the local app won't work without Internet and their device will be a paperweight when they retire their support
No problem. The app would be able to connect to their internet services, it only do it connecting to your local guest network that is connected to internet but have not access to anything else on your local network using wifi, from a phone that has nothing else on it so so SIM, no contacts, no navigation cookies and so on. At least some other useless app like itself.
It is not the perfect solution (which would be to not need an app) but at least you neutralize any kind of spyware/data harvesting since there is no data to harvest if not the one generated by the app itself.
How does that pan out when the company discontinues that product model or product line?
A family member got a fancy device with zero buttons on it, and an app that basically provides '+' and '-' buttons that has to go through that companies cloud service. When their internet went down, they had to unplug it because it was set wrong and without internet, it couldn't be set.
This wasn't some advanced capability. It didn't require massive data or computational power. It literally could have been handled with a 7-segment LCD panel and three buttons (+/-/Power). If you buy that device now, they require you pay a monthly subscription for the privilege of being able to do that (under the excuse that they use 'AI' to know the right values without being told, but conveniently even the '+/-' functionality is now locked to the subscription plan.
It does not, but that is not the problem my suggestion would solve. The solution to this problem is to not buy these "advanced" devices
Wrong choice in my opinion. And also terrible design of the device itself. But as long as people will look more to the design than to its usability, companies will continue to do these kind of devices.
And I don't buy the "but all the companies do this and that, there are no alternatives": alternatives are present, people are just ignoring them to buy the last device sold with the lastest buzzwords.