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With a fully functional, affordable, universal public transport system, owning a car is a luxury, not a need.
It never was a need. This is a myth build by the car manufacturers. They lobbied for the car centered model with oil companies. This never was the model.
The same applies for suburbs full of houses.
I'm not going down that slope.
As someone who has lived in a large city, with a fully functional public transportation system, I was thankful for it, although it took me 2 extra hours of my life every day.
But living in a city, packed and stacked like merchandise in shelves is not a good way to live.
I got out the first opportunity I could take. Cost me family, friends and lower income but I don't regret it.
Metropolises are not the way for civilization and CoViD was a cruel demononstration of how flawed the concept is.
That is all I have to say.
Yeah, Rome, Constantinople, Alexandria, Venice. All terrible places for a person to live... Nothing good ever happened in this cities....
You've literally just listed a bunch of places that sound like absolute hell.
the chosen one
Nah. Just someone who had enough of feeling miserable out of others decisions.
I feel you. If I walk an hour from my house I want to be in the wilderness with moose and bears and shite, not still in the city.
Are you in Alaska or somewhere near?
Northern Scandinavia.
Or that.
You have moose around there?
Yeah you see them on the roads pretty often. Also reindeer herds sometimes.
Reindeer I was aware but moose no.
ouch
I wasn't happy, I did my part to solve my problem.
A city shouldn't be larger than 100 k imo.
Smaller cities, in the 10-15k range, have an added benefit: large enough to have large scale industry, small enough for people to know each other. Creates more security, as you tend to know if one face or another is new.
Well SK is also a pretty centralized country. Most people live in or right around Seoul.
Not much point in owning a car in such a case.
This is about Singapore though?
They got their Asians all mixed up
Y'all got any of them magic carpets? They're just as real as this mythical perfect public transport system. And cars will always be more convenient. Convenience wins every time.
Eat it.
I lived in a city, with a public transport system, and it worked. Nobody is speaking of perfection here.
I live in a city, with a public transport system, and it's terrible. Nobody but the poors bother with it as it takes HOURS longer than simply driving. This isn't hyperbole, it's actual trip times from actual trips taken.
Your public transit system and town planning suck. An easy litmus test: do your buses and trans have dedicated lanes and priority at intersections? If the answer is no, your public transit system isn't good enough and im something else is being given priority.
Try visiting The Netherlands. Bikes, specifically E-bikes win for convenience.
The Netherlands are smaller and more densely populated than most US states, let alone the entire continental US. - https://imgur.com/XcYgDtt
What works for them isn't going to work elsewhere.
It doesn't have to work everywhere to be implemented in some places. Bikes and e bikes in particular benefits everyone. Those that ride them in the inner ring and those that have to drive who encounter less congestion because the people who now ride bikes are not in cars or taking up a bus seat.
If you look at city density the twin cities in Minnesota actually could have and utilize infrastructure like the Netherlands but policy stops us