this post was submitted on 06 Oct 2023
493 points (97.5% liked)

Technology

60148 readers
3026 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.

Our Rules

  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
L3s
[email protected]
[email protected]
L4s
enu
493
HP fails to derail claims that it bricks scanners on multifunction printers when ink runs low (abcnews.go.com)
submitted 1 year ago by L4s to c/technology
37 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

HP fails to derail claims that it bricks scanners on multifunction printers when ink runs low::HP Inc. has failed to shunt aside claims in a lawsuit that it disables scanners and other functions on its multifunction printers whenever the ink runs low

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] ozymandias117 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Bricking,” “hard bricking,” and “soft bricking” became inexorably intertwined during the early days of flashing custom Android ROMs

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

HTC Dream and G2 user/modder here

I’m not familiar with that. Brick means “your item is now a brick.”

I’ve never heard of hard or soft.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Soft brick afaik is like when you mess up fastboot and need to use Qualcomms tool to repartition and repair fastboot.

Generally you cannot do this, but the tool leaked for some devices, this it's softbricked

[–] ozymandias117 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

QC uses the firehose protocol to load software that early, but that’s a good overview

The tools are generally available to flash, but manufacturers may not offer the next signed bootloader as something you can easily download (that one then implements fastboot)

You also need some mechanism to force the PBL to jump to download mode instead of trying to load the next bootloader

[–] ozymandias117 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At that time, “Hard Brick” was getting used for the hardware was damaged

“Soft brick” was something like a boot loop where the device was unusable, but something like a DFU flash could repair (using DFU since every manufacturer had their own boot flash implementation back then)

At some point after that, people just went back to saying “bricked” for both

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

As someone that rooted their phones a lot back in the day it's wild how vividly I remember this and it went down exactly as you described lol