It's more addictive than meth. If you can imagine somebody hitting rock bottom on meth then it should be easy enough to wrap your head around it. Especially when cigarettes contain added chemicals to make it more addictive than nicotine alone.

By inference you are claiming that nicotine is more addictive than meth and I'm just pointing out that isn't correct — you can't use tobacco and nicotine interchangeably in discussions, whether talking about addictiveness, harm, or just about any aspect of their short and long terms effects. The addictiveness is drastically different, the cardiovascular effects are vastly different, the effects on lung function are vastly different.

To your credit, the overall conversation is about tobacco and I should have clarified that my point applies to everyone in this conversation who is talking about nicotine and tobacco in the same breath.

[–] stonedemoman 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I definitely flubbed the terms, but if you extrapolate what I'm saying it should be obvious I was talking about tobacco. And I feel like the people in this conversation are so eager to hate on me that they'll just incorrectly use this as evidence that I'm wrong lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No hate or downvotes from me, sorry if it seems that way. Perhaps it's my current mood or imagination, but the Lemmy crowd seems a bit more reactionary and prone to strongly worded dismissive comments than Reddit.

I'm also seeing a lot more downvoting of comments here that don't seem all that controversial. I'd rather hear why someone disagrees with a post than the rush to silently downvote, but I can't control that either. People are wound up these days.

[–] stonedemoman 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I completely agree. This is not even a subject that I'm particularly educated on and I'm still waiting for a single substantiated defeator for my opinions on the topic to change my mind.

Then you look at the downvotes and you'd think that you missed a comment that disproved your statement(s).