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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I strongly disagree with the too much RAM hate. I have 32GB and run out. 64GB would be freedom to do whatever. That’s how computing should be.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

The correct amount of RAM is enough that you never, ever have to think about it no matter what you choose to do.

Ditto for storage.

32GB is "fine", but yes, I occasionally run into cases where it's not enough. Typically with VMs or CPU-based machine learning tasks that are too big to run on GPU. I'm not really into video editing but I assume that needs a ton as well.

[–] weeahnn 6 points 1 year ago

Lol i still have 16gb

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My server has 156GB RAM and I don’t think I’ll ever hit 8GB usage hahaha

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’ll boot faster if you take some out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Noted! I haven’t got it set up yet. I have all the hard drives and stuff, but I haven’t been motivated lately. :c

Plus, once I have UNRAID going, ideally it will almost never need to boot!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I personally would not take it out, "unused" RAM will be used by the OS as e.g. disk cache, or you could have a fairly large ramdisk.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I see! I’m very extremely new to this! Insofar I’ve only got some RPi machines set up, I don’t yet know anything about UNRAID or big servers.

[–] MrGeekman 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

8GB

My server has 8GB of RAM and it rarely even gets up to 4GB of actual RAM usage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have no sense of scale yet hahaha. My only server is a 4GB RPI 4 B!

[–] MrGeekman 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which server were you talking about when you said your server has 156GB of RAM?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’ve got a GSA gifted to me by a friend, and he filled it to max with RAM beforehand, and flashed the BIOS with regular… Dell? BIOS?

It’s The Cheat from Homestar that I had to get a buncha SAS drives for. I didn’t know they were a thing.

It’s unfathomably gigantic and heavy, but I guess it has a couple processors and a ton of RAM!

(Also love your handle)

Edit: oh shit it’s also got two PSUs for whatever raisin hahaha

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

128gb here. I sit constantly between 40 and 70gb in use. Heavy multitasking between Internet, professional, gaming, and creative outlets can sometimes push near 90.

16 was the pcmr standard in 2010, but is a complete joke now. 32g is the new 8gb now. "Casual" pc usage is way, WAY heavier now: nobody just uses a computer for only one thing anymore, they use it for multi-window browsing, music, and YouTube, along with the new standard of everybody plays games and nobody wants to close shit just to play a game.

Games are heavierweight and the only reason it's as low requirement as they are is because of console peasants. CS2 is like 100gb storage, up from the laughable ~2gb in csgo. That's just not how the world works anymore. The economy has chosen ease of development and priority on graphical fidelity over deep design complexity. Shit; Starfield is basically just a 200gb graphics mod of Morrowind.

And then you have heavy users like us, who actually use bleeding edge functions, who have grown up wanting better and more, experimenting and not trusting and wanting to pay cloud. Despite the neon gamer rog chrome and black image, I'd be willing to bet almost every person here in this thread has at least one HDD currently in use (take note of these demographics: fediverse, English speaking, pcmr, aware of RAM) - and the reason is because they're cheap, fairly reliable storage and we all ain't made of money. Ironic because of the amount of RAM being discussed.

32GB has been the new 16GB for probably five years, and realistically, 64GB is actually what you should be getting when you upgrade/make a new build.

Reason: 64GB, right this minute, is one double above "just cutting it".