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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

    The arguments against systemd come from the same people that love IRC, mailinglists, tiling window managers, split keyboards, don't have a mouse, debug with printf, main arch or gentoo, unironically write RTFM|LMGTFY, call users "lusers", play DnD, think Startrek and/or Star Wars cannot be topped, identify with the portrayed super hackers in media, and are proud of doing things the hard way just to feel some kind of superiority in their life.

    Edit: for those who don't get it, I'm obviously not being serious. If you fit this mythical, stereotypical person... uh... good job?

    [–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I doubt there are many (if any) people that fit this oddly specific criteria.

    [–] psmgx 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    hey don't go bundling up us Arch users with Tiling window managers with superhackers. I can hardly spell DNS

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

    Hey, I use hyprland on Arch, and I can spell DNS just fine thank you. Don't bundle me with the systemd haters or any haters for that matter

    [–] P3D7O 3 points 1 year ago
    [–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Why are you attacking so many loud majorities at once? Not everyone that likes some of those hates systemd or belittles users for

    [–] uis 6 points 1 year ago

    Except mailinglists lovers. Linux kernel developers hate systemd with every neuron.

    [–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Just because I ran arch with ratpoison and firefox with Vim keybindings because I didn't have a mouse wasn't out of superiority, twas cause I was too poor to afford a mouse at the time.

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

    Acktuchlly, I had moved just moved to Colorado and ended up living in a family friend's shed for a couple months. Every few days i walked to the library for wifi to download shit and check email. My TouchPad went out on my acer aspire 1 so if I remember correctly I borrowed a friend's mouse to get it all setup and afterwards used only keyboard, but out of necessity. Eventually I did get a mouse, and I just use xfce now, but I seriously can't use a web browser without vim bindings now.

    [–] superfes 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Well, I like IRC, ergonomic keyboards, sometimes debug using print commands, use Gentoo (Happy birthday!), play DnD and sometimes have to do things the hard way, and I like systemd, especially as a developer, I can test services right from my user account.

    I think the hate comes from people who just want something to hate.

    [–] uis 2 points 1 year ago

    I meh IRC(no history without bouncers), rarely debug using printf, mostly debug in some GUI, but sometimes in GDB TUI, use Gentoo(HB, Larry the Cow), don't even know DnD rules, don't use systemd and really hate pulseaudio.

    [–] dm_me_your_feet 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    This description literally fits everyone in my team at work and i love it. I m the least nerdy one there and its beautiful.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

    debug with printf

    I feel personally attacked.

    [–] Magister 1 points 1 year ago

    It mostly fits me, except the split keyboard and "super hacker". I started with un*x in the 80s and looks more like a 50s yo bearded guy 😂