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Glad ljdawson is going to try to make this a thing!

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My plan is to get an MVP out in the next 3-6 weeks.

What should make the first release?

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[โ€“] neanderthal 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wouldn't they have to have some sort of presence in the EU? If all of their operations are US based (I don't know if they are or not), can the EU really do anything about it?

[โ€“] LillianVS 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

They serve people in the EU so they absolutely have to comply. If you have EU citizens on your website then EU GDPR regulations apply to you.

I have done enough GDPR compliance training to make me want to gouge my own brain out but I guess it came in handy lol

[โ€“] neanderthal 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Suppose Reddit tells them to go away. What are they going to do about it?

[โ€“] LillianVS 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In my case, I could go to the ICO and register a complaint with them if you live in Europe then you can try this page: https://edps.europa.eu/data-protection/our-role-supervisor/complaints_en

Outside of Europe, the UK and California you probably won't have much luck to be honest, as they do not legally have to comply with you if you are not a citizen of any of those places.

As for if Reddit tells the EU to go away, that is suicide, whilst 49% of users are in the USA the rest of the 51% are everywhere else, that would be a very bad look for investors if the website was blocked in Europe and it would look especially bad for the company to be fined for gdpr non-compliance. So they would be in worse not to comply... Not to mention the loss in ad revenue. Nobody wants to serve ads when only half the site is going to see them. USA won't be much affected but anyone in the EU will.

They could also increase the fine, and if they still refuse to pay, sue them and seize assets. Either way, a massive headache

[โ€“] neanderthal -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am more interested in the enforcement scenario where a US business just completely ignores the fines, lawsuits, etc.

"sue them and seize assets."

How are they going to enforce that on a US company if what they did wasn't illegal in the US and the act in question was done in the US?

[โ€“] LillianVS 4 points 2 years ago

The EU can work with US enforcement agencies, that is something that they have the power to do, as well as vice versa

Just because you are in the states it does not mean you can hide from regulations, though I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice (obviously)

It's a two way street, and it makes sense. EU have to comply with US regulations if they are serving US citizens like any other country

[โ€“] CheeseNoodle 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I believe blocking reddit in the EU is an option.

[โ€“] neanderthal 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How would they implement that?

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Matching you IP to your country and showing you an excuse if GDPR would apply. Some American news outlets do it this way.

[โ€“] LillianVS 2 points 2 years ago

All governments have the power to block a website, there have been sites blocked by the government such as pirate bay and MEGA upload. It isn't outside the possibility they can get blocked at an ISP level or beyond that.

They can even contact the website host which most companies will use Amazon services and they will definitely comply with EU regulations