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Gotta say this hasn't been my experience at all, I watch a ton of normal video content and very rarely am recommended streams. Unless I'm on Twitch obviously but if you're on Twitch you know what to expect.
If you're talking about YouTube, you might want to consider interacting with those uncut stream uploads less otherwise the algorithm is just gonna think that's what you're into.
The algorithm can’t tell the difference between a recorded stream and an edited video. In theory maybe it should know when a video is 4 hours long that it’s different, but in my experience this isn’t the case.
My experience is exactly like OP describes. I have a ton of YT creators I’ve subscribed to in fan lore or even woodworking that have shifted their efforts into live streams where they can tend to their Patreon flock and collect tips.
Because I subscribe to these channels and have engaged with them a lot, the algo shows me whatever they upload. I may even get a notification of new video and then when I look… oh it’s a recorded stream.
Ah that's a shame, nowt worse than when a creator you like changes direction to something crap. Still, maybe a wave of unsubs will help point them back to the path of rightousness 😄
I assume they are rational actors and making this shift because it is more money for less effort on their part. Ad revenue from produced videos is a very slow and dilute stream. Your channel has to be huge to make much. And when your whole thing is about a niche audience, Patreon etc and streams with tips will just make you more money, plus there is more of a direct interaction with top fans that the creator may enjoy. I just don’t care for this. I don’t need to hear my name read out or pretend I’m their friend. Just gimmie the content!
I'm literally a YouTuber and still agree with you lol. Some of my friends have shifted into doing streams (moved to Twitch though rather than do it on YT) and I've just stopped watching because frankly who has the time.
It's a weird one, video monetisation. For example gaming is well-known to be pretty much the lowest paying niche you can get, so I definitely understand people having to do what they can. In my own niche it's thankfully much more lucrative so there's less pressure to pad things out and let the content suffer (not that my content is amazing but you get the point). Moving to slower, drawn-out hour-long videos instead of 15-minute ones would no doubt make me more money, but that's a choice I face and not a requirement to survive like it can be in the lower-paying niches.
Definitely not a dilemma I envy.