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[–] jeffw 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shit, you should want all animal agriculture banned.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] blanketswithsmallpox 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Eh, there are plenty of use cases where certain land types aren't really arable. Ruminants fill that niche easily.

The catch is that like 80% of the land used for livestock currently could also use crops instead.

https://freefromharm.org/agriculture-environment/saving-the-world-with-livestock-the-allan-savory-approach-examined/

Fwiw US dairy plans to be carbon neutral by 2050.

https://www.npr.org/2022/04/27/1095100351/the-dairy-industry-aims-to-be-carbon-neutral-by-2050-heres-what-it-means-for-far

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

But we don't need to use all that land. Plant-based diets use 70% less land, including 22% less crop land.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The bigger catch is that 70% of all crops we grow go to our livestock.

We wouldn't need to use those lands if we just ate less meat.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The bigger catch is that 70% of all crops we grow go to our livestock.

this isn't true

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Livestock accounts for 77% of global farming land, while supplying only 18% of calories and 37% of protein.

Source

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

much of that is grazing land, not crops.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Added to what the other guy said (that it's grazing land that HAS to fallow whether used or not), that 77% number ALSO counts the waste from crops we're growing for humans, waste that would be going to an incinerator if they weren't going to a cow or pig.

Very few (if any, depending how you define the breakdown) crops are grown with animals as their focus. It just so happens that's how much of those crops we cannot digest.