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[–] Desistance 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are many Android phone manufacturers. But only one iPhone manufacturer. It would be no different if Microsoft started blocking other software competitors in Windows.

[–] Earthwormjim91 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Windows largely does actually have a monopoly though. They make up 70% of the desktop OS market. Apple makes up less than 30% of the smartphone OS market share with Android making up over 70% across those dozens of Android OEMs.

Again, nobody is forcing anyone to buy an iPhone. There’s a plethora of competition for phones and Apple is a minority player in the market. Real hard to have an anti trust/monopoly case against a player that doesn’t even hold a majority market share.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

They make up 70% of the desktop OS market.

Which is why Microsoft has been the target of multiple antitrust suits over the years.

Apple makes up less than 30% of the smartphone OS market share

iPhones command more than 50% in the US. In fact, iOS accounts for 67% of all app spending. The latter is what legislators care most about.

It should be noted that antitrust laws are broad, and don’t have any arbitrary market share requirement to trigger. Players can distort markets in many ways, directly and indirectly.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can also just use the physical card; there are plenty of choices. Consumers want to use Apple Pay specifically though because Apple created a really compelling experience for the end user.

It's also worth pointing out that with Apple Pay, banks are forced to compete against each other for every transaction. Every card is treated exactly the same as every other card from every other bank, and they all get the same (best) user experience. Banks would prefer if their app were the default for NFC, making it more difficult to mix your use of cards from different banks.

Locking down NFC for payments is in many ways, paradoxically, pro-competition.

[–] Kima09 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Certified Apple biggest sheep spotted. If it's done by Apple, everything is great and perfect; just like how they don't collect personal data without user consent. 😂 🤣

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You do realize this whole thing is just a little squabble between a big tech company and big banks over money, right? It’s not like there’s even a “little guy” to root for anyway. I’m just pointing out that Apple’s policies force the banks to compete against each other on a more-even footing.

And all you’ve got to contribute is a lazy ad hominem and a straw man.

[–] Kima09 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not rooting for anyone. If you think that one corporation blocking another from providing unique experience and forced them to play on their own field is pro consumer, you don't know the basics of how Free Market works. With Apple entering financial market with their Apple Card services, they're providing themselves a good ground for manipulation. This is exactly how monopolistic behavior works.

You're just high on your Apple shill.