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The Philadelphia Eagles' 'tush push' is becoming the NFL's most unstoppable play
(www.startribune.com)
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Well, it's a little different when your QB is squatting 600+ pounds...
Modern QBs aren't like they were 20 years. Now they tend to be just as athletic as everyone else on the field. It used to just be some average looking dude who just knew how to throw the ball.
It's honestly weird it took this long for the NFL to realize a QB can be a huge monster like every other position
I’m not sure I’d say all modern QBs are like that.
Hurts, Allen, Richardson, Lamar, sure.
The rest aren’t built like that.
Even the ones that are built like that have only been in the league for a couple years. Jury’s still out if this style of play is worth it “long-term.”
Not all of em can squat 600, but this one can.
My point was modern QBs are more athletic than they used to be. And this guy is on a completely different level. Which is why this isn't what every team is doing.
With how long QBs play professionally, they're the slowest position to change.
For long term tho, the stronger the player the better. Using them like this tho... probably isn't good on a personal level long term.
Power running killed Cam.
I think he was always incredibly overrated as a passer, but high impact plays add up for all the other positions, too. They're not going to magically be OK at QB. The fact that part of the position is so technical (actually passing) makes abuse inherently more impactful.
Cam got ran into the ground because that's all he could do...
I'm saying a 6'4 230lb QB can take sacks better than a 5'10" 180lb QB. Not that size makes them invincible.
Play like an RB and no one is going to be surprised when your career is as short as most RBs. Play like a QB and that extra size means you take hits better.
We're discussing a play where they treat him like a short yardage back.
A short yardage back runs a dive...
They dont form a scrum where their own players surround them so they never take a direct hit. That's the rule change mentioned in the article no one else apparently read
Yes, they do. People pushing runners in short yardage didn't start with Hurts.
Hurts absolutely gets beat up on these plays. It's not even sort of different in any functional way from a fullback dive.
Well, I was going to quote the article you still haven't read, but it really isn't that long and you should just read the whole thing.
Then you can email the author, I'm sure they'd love to hear from Random Internet Guy that they're wrong.
Best of luck!
Did you read the article? It tells you teams have been pushing runners since the rule change almost 20 years ago, and makes no assertion (let alone evidence) that it is in any way safer for the ball carrier than any other short yardage carry.
It's more effective because it hits quicker, because it's a QB. Shocking, since Tom Brady also had an extremely high success rate on QB sneaks, right?
But absolutely no one is claiming it magically removes the fact that smashing the shit out of your QB is heavy wear.