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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Wealth inequality is possibly the highest it's ever been in history.

I wouldn't be surprised if food wasted (food that goes straight to the trash) nowadays is also at peak numbers, or close to.

During the Bolsonaro years (2019-2022), Brazil saw a drastic increase in extreme poverty, made worse by the pandemic. Poor people were literally scavenging carcasses for anything that could still be eaten. We're still trying to recover.

Do not take any of those good things for granted, they can be very easily reverted by a small number of psychopath assholes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wealth inequality is higher now than it was back when most of us were serfs who barely owned the clothes on our backs while one family lived in a castle and owned the rest of us?

[–] Seudo 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes. Modernity made it a lot easier to create wealth out of thin air. However most of the worlds lowest class have it better in pretty much every metric than that family.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Believe it or not, even the richest monarchs didn't have over a million serfs working directly under them. Even today there are many people who still barely own the clothes they wear

[–] Maggoty -1 points 1 year ago

Yeah actually. It wasn't until industrialization that work hours and pay got so bad. Most commoners in the middle ages did just fine on what we would consider to be a half day of work and suffered for things out of human control like droughts.

Not that Feudalism was a better system, just more that people were more scarce, less replaceable, and automation was zero.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I wonder how those people are doing nowadays

[–] Torvum 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's more wealth being transferred in circulation than ever before

There's more food being produced than ever before

Your points are invalid without the context we need better regulation and methods to prevent collapse and waste. We're literally outgrowing by production over our knowledge.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wealth being transferred is meaningless when it's amongst the wealthy, and more food is also being wasted than ever before.

We're at a point in human civilization where we should be able to provide more for EVERYONE while expecting them to work less, yet here I am one catastrophic car accident or unexpected massive medical bill away from telling my kids we're homeless. But the very fact that, for now, I have a mortgage and my kids are getting a decent education and three square meals a day means I'm still way ahead of a shitload of people in my country, and I'm filthy fucking rich compared to people elsewhere in the world.

My wife and I work hard for our family, but I know for a fact that others work WAY harder. Since their labor is considered less valuable than mine they make WAY less than we do. The dumbest thing is that if society does implode, the guys working manual labor for peanuts will be more capable and provide more value than me, an asshole who sits on his ass all day fucking with Excel.

Our society is fucked.

[–] Chunk 6 points 1 year ago

Since their labor is considered less valuable than mine they make WAY less than we do

This is such a sad realization. As a software engineer I didn't really do anything to deserve the income. I work less hard than a lot of people and I'm valued more, for the sole reason that the computer can scale in a way a hammer cannot. I'm here largely because my parents went to college and encouraged me as a child to be an engineer. I didn't earn any of this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

There’s more wealth being transferred in circulation than ever before

Which, as lingh0e pointed, is meaningless since most of it is coming from and going to the wealthy.

There’s more food being produced than ever before

And yet, hunger is still an issue worldwide. What's the point of producing, say, 100 tons of food if 40 tons go straight to the trash?

Your points are invalid without the context

What context? Inequality is rising and you can check that with a quick search for "countryname inequality index per year". For the food, it's probably harder to really assess how much of the production is wasted, but it's a significant number.

we need better regulation and methods to prevent collapse and waste

Good luck doing that, as it hurts profits, and the profiteers will spend more money than you and me will ever make in our entire lives combined to fight said regulations.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wealth inequality has nothing useful to say about quality of life for people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It has. That inequality means that a small number of people can drive the price of certain items, such as housing, way above inflation, making it impossible for people who rely on their salaries to buy and own a home, or even manage to pay rent. Being forced to live farther and farther away from where you work, wasting precious time in transit to and back from work (or anywhere you need to be), just in order to have some money, reduces the quality of life.

There is enough money around to fix poverty in most places and still have rich people enjoying their luxurious lives. Inequality has a very direct impact in the quality of life of millions.