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A leading doctor who threw a backyard party for his sister's birthday in Queens claims their group was 'hosed' with water by a 'racist' white neighbor during a noise dispute, according to a lawsuit.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, that was in 2017 for a variety of reasons, and since then they’ve tried to straighten it up a bit, and have gotten awards and accolades from the British Press etc.

So they’re not entirely terrible now. I despise Fox News so I should despise the Daily Mail, but recently I haven’t read stories like these from them that raise any issues. But then again when I’m looking for information on important things, I’m not going to them either.

edit: and it’s entirely possible that my viewpoint is slanted as a US reader who mainly recognizes bullshit in US-related stories, where they may default to just reporting what they’re told or have read about a thing and don’t bother to twist it much. That could be true.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, that was in 2017 for a variety of reasons,

And in 2023.
And in 2022.
And in 2021.
And in 2019.

Looks to me like they havent cleaned up shit.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

not sure you can entirely blame them for the 2023 one if they repeated a summary they received:

It appears that the error originally came from an email newsletter sent to specialist journalists by the academic publishing company, Elsevier. This newsletter, which is not available to the public, incorrectly summarised the findings of the report by saying short breaks were found to induce fatigue. The copy had been approved by Professor Brazaitis before it was sent.

The 2021 numbers aren’t great, but better than I expected tbh. 2% of complaints upheld indicates they are doing better, relatively speaking. Be interested in knowing the total numbers for 2022 since they’re quoted as saying they had no such judgements for the year at the time of the quote. I find it interesting that the example provided for 2022 apparently didn’t contain the offending material in the original copy, so it started out fine and apparently someone inserted bullshit in the online version. That could have been some unilateral dumbass acting without approval, idk obviously.

Again, I probably wouldn’t go to them for most of those stories anyway, but for a story about white people in NY spraying down black people having a party next door, where it doesn’t seem to be making excuses for those white people? Sure, I’ll read that as reasonably neutral, and then cross reference.

edit: in case it isn’t obvious, the word neutral above was used in regards to this specific article, and how it comes across. If I read an article like this on Fox News, it would have many indicators of victim blaming etc. I don’t get that impression from this article specifically.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Okay, ignoring their outright bad journalism for a second...

Neutral?! Seriously?! No one who's ever lived in the UK and knows their arse from their elbow would ever consider the Mail neutral.

The Mail has a looooong record of putting forward right wing opinions. Decades long. I compared it to Fox News for a reason.