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People are being really hypocritical.
You want a free open source social network. But when people you dont like join it, you hate it. That is not how it works, its not how FREE in FOSS works.
Meta can join, they can do whatever they want. It literally the point of this social network. If you dont like it, then go to a social network that is not FOSS, but is heavily moderated, because that is what most of you really want.
"Freedom" can be used to justify lots of really bad stuff. Meta has too much money to be trusted, they WILL fuck the Fediverse up eventually for more profit on the first chance they get (and people with lots of money always get those chances).
And it's not just about morality and the fucked up stuff that's happened on Meta, Iike the Cambridge Analytica scandal. I stopped using Facebook years ago because of the low quality of the content being posted there. And last week I logged back in to sell some stuff and oh boy, the content managed to get even worse.
I don't want growth just for the sake of growth. We don't need big corporations getting involved.
I agree with you. But, then we should be honest about what we want. We want a social network that is heavily moderated against corporate interference, while still being open to everbody else.
Its a structure that is impossible to maintain. Its a dream.
This seems like a misunderstanding of FLOSS. "Free" doesn't mean that you're obligated to provide everyone a platform for whatever they want. Defederation is an appropriate tool for a wide range of conditions, including "the users do not want to be in a community with the users of this instance".
The vast majority of Mastodon servers defederated Gab a long time ago, as well as instances that, among other things, promoted lolicon or allowed targeted harassment on other fediverse users.
Fediverse instances can and should defederate any Meta server. That's because Meta joining the fediverse puts them in the position to establish a position similar to Google in browsers- i.e.: there's no longer meaningful competition or a meaningful counterpoint- anything Meta wants done to the fediverse happens and anything they don't want done doesn't happen.
I think he's saying that there's nothing wrong with Meta joining. You're completely correct in that we have the tools to hide their content if we want to. That's the beauty of this platform.
I'm also FREE to say fuck Meta, fuck Facebook, and all communities should defederate with anything corrupted by them