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[–] bill_buttlicker 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If you ask this on any car blog, people will emphatically say that you do not NEED AWD. What you really need are a set of dedicated winter tires. Winter tires make a huge difference in snow, if you live in an area with a lot of it.

Having said this, you should check out the Car and Driver's buyers guide on their website to see what peaks your interest. Tons of great options. Subaru Crosstrek, Kia Seltos, Hyundai Tuscon, Mazda Cx-50... it goes on and on! Then check out Doug Demuro's reviews of any cars that strike your fancy. His reviews are crazy thorough and give you the best idea of what a car is like, before even stepping into a dealer lot.

I, too, love cars, so hit me up with any questions.

[–] Fosheze 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This right here. I drive a tiny old rear wheel drive 4 cylinder pickup which is arguably the worst vehicle for winter driving. The only thing it has going for it is that it does have a bit more ground clearance than cars. I live in Minnesota and work nights so I often get off work before the plows have cleared the roads. As long as I have a good set of snow tires on that truck, a couple sand bags in the back, and drive carefully, then it can and has trecked through roads covered in nearly a foot of wet snow like a champ. I've had to give rides to multiple people who planted their big 4x4 SUVs in the ditch with that little truck.

Also because OP mentioned it but you didn't say anything in your post, wide tires aren't necissarly better in the snow. The best winter vehicle I've ever owned was a tiny 90s Mazda pickup that actually used unusually narrow tires compared to modern vehicles. Wide tires are great for mudding or off roading because they distribute weight over a larger area and help prevent you from just getting stuck in your own ruts. However when it comes to snow you actually want to sink farther down in the snow because there is road underneath so you don't need to worry about digging ruts. So narrower tires will concentrate the weight of your vehicle better and give you a better chance of digging down to a solid surface rather than skating across the top of the snow. With wide tires they wind up distributing the same weight over a larger area so you just wind up with more less tightly compressed snow under the tires and that can make them more likely to slide in some situations.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

...my wife lived in minnesota twenty years ago and did exactly the same; great little truck did fine in the winter...

(can't find compact pickups anymore for love or money)

[–] silentknyght 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Why not both? Both is good. But if you don't have AWD, yes, you definitely need winter tires.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Tires are for coming to a stop safely. AWD helps you get moving.

AWD cannot replace winter tires.

[–] Jeanschyso 2 points 11 months ago

If you have AWD, or if you don't have AWD, in both cases, you still need winter tires. There is a reason they are obligatory for a couple months per year in Quebec. It's illegal to drive without them in winter here because if there is one thing we know, it's snow. Not only do you need them to stop safely on snow and ice, but you need them to adhere to the ground when turning, both at low and high speeds, even without snow or Ice.

The ground is so cold that even if we melt the snow using salt, your summer tires won't adhere as well as they would, and you could find yourself losing control.